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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, john.ogness@linutronix.de, urezki@gmail.com,
	ast@fb.com, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hugetlb: select PREEMPT_COUNT if HUGETLB_PAGE for in_atomic use
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 12:09:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YEn6W0RcjNiP0N0P@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YEnochPwIyAsiEWS@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu 11-03-21 10:52:50, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 10:44:56AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Thu 11-03-21 10:32:24, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > The whole changelog reads like a trainwreck, but akpm already commented
> > > on that. I picked out a small factual incorrectness, simply because if
> > > you can't get that right, the whole argument looses weight.
> > 
> > Is there any reason why in_atomic || irq_disabled wouldn't work
> > universally?
> 
> I just explained to you how you really wanted:
> 
>   in_atomic() && !irq_disabled()

Sorry for being dense but I do not follow. You have provided the
following example
  spin_lock(&A);
  <IRQ>
        spin_lock(&A);

if A == hugetlb_lock then we should never reenter with
free_huge_page
	if (in_atomic() || irq_disabled())
		schedule_in_wq();
	else
		free_directly()

because hugetlb_lock is never held in irq context other than from
put_page (aka the above) path which will explicitly defer the handling and
thus the lock to a different context. We need to check for irq_disabled
because of the sleeping paths in the freeing path. Or do I miss
something?

From the code simplicity POV (and hugetlb has grown a lot of complexity)
it would be really easiest to make sure __free_huge_page to be called
from a non-atomic process context. There are few ways to do that
- defer each call to a WQ - user visible which sucks
- defer from atomic or otherwise non-sleeping contextx - requires
  reliable in_atomic AFAICS
- defer sleeping operations - makes the code flow more complex and it
  would be again user visible in some cases.

So I would say we are in "pick your own poison" kind of situation.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-11 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-11  2:13 Mike Kravetz
2021-03-11  5:43 ` Andrew Morton
2021-03-11  8:20   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  8:26 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  8:27   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  8:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-11  9:01   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  9:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-11  9:44       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  9:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-11 11:09           ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-03-11 11:36             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-11 12:02               ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11 17:25                 ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-11 12:49               ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11 17:50               ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-03-11  9:49 ` Peter Zijlstra

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