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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Alex Shi <alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Chris Kennelly <ckennelly@google.com>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Hugepage collapse in process context
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 09:39:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YC4nx/qChwNdfLmB@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9B5BFA9A-E945-4665-B335-A0B8E36D4463@fb.com>

On Thu 18-02-21 08:11:13, Song Liu wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Feb 16, 2021, at 8:24 PM, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi everybody,
> > 
> > Khugepaged is slow by default, it scans at most 4096 pages every 10s.  
> > That's normally fine as a system-wide setting, but some applications would 
> > benefit from a more aggressive approach (as long as they are willing to 
> > pay for it).
> > 
> > Instead of adding priorities for eligible ranges of memory to khugepaged, 
> > temporarily speeding khugepaged up for the whole system, or sharding its 
> > work for memory belonging to a certain process, one approach would be to 
> > allow userspace to induce hugepage collapse.
> > 
> > The benefit to this approach would be that this is done in process context 
> > so its cpu is charged to the process that is inducing the collapse.  
> > Khugepaged is not involved.
> > 
> > Idea was to allow userspace to induce hugepage collapse through the new 
> > process_madvise() call.  This allows us to collapse hugepages on behalf of 
> > current or another process for a vectored set of ranges.
> > 
> > This could be done through a new process_madvise() mode *or* it could be a 
> > flag to MADV_HUGEPAGE since process_madvise() allows for a flag parameter 
> > to be passed.  For example, MADV_F_SYNC.
> > 
> > When done, this madvise call would allocate a hugepage on the right node 
> > and attempt to do the collapse in process context just as khugepaged would 
> > otherwise do.
> 
> This is very interesting idea. One question, IIUC, the user process will 
> block until all small pages in given ranges are collapsed into THPs.

Do you mean that PF would be blocked due to exclusive mmap_sem? Or is
there anything else oyu have in mind?

> What 
> would happen if the memory is so fragmented that we cannot allocate that 
> many huge pages? Do we need some fail over mechanisms? 

IIRC khugepaged preallocates pages without holding any locks and I would
expect the same will be done for madvise as well.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-18  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-17  4:24 David Rientjes
2021-02-17  8:21 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-18 13:43   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-02-18 13:52     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-18 22:34       ` David Rientjes
2021-02-19 16:16         ` Zi Yan
2021-02-24  9:44         ` Alex Shi
2021-03-01 20:56           ` David Rientjes
2021-03-04 10:52             ` Alex Shi
2021-02-17 15:49 ` Zi Yan
2021-02-18  8:11 ` Song Liu
2021-02-18  8:39   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-02-18  9:53     ` Song Liu
2021-02-18 10:01       ` Michal Hocko

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