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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/8] iov_iter: Add a function to extract a page list from an iterator
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 22:15:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y9L7cRFFZh9A7kZY@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c742e47b-dcc0-1fef-dc8c-3bf85d26b046@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 02:24:13PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 23.01.23 14:19, David Howells wrote:
> > David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Switching from FOLL_GET to FOLL_PIN was in the works by John H. Not sure what
> > > the status is. Interestingly, Documentation/core-api/pin_user_pages.rst
> > > already documents that "CASE 1: Direct IO (DIO)" uses FOLL_PIN ... which does,
> > > unfortunately, no reflect reality yet.
> > 
> > Yeah - I just came across that.
> > 
> > Should iov_iter.c then switch entirely to using pin_user_pages(), rather than
> > get_user_pages()?  In which case my patches only need keep track of
> > pinned/not-pinned and never "got".
> 
> That would be the ideal case: whenever intending to access page content, use
> FOLL_PIN instead of FOLL_GET.
> 
> The issue that John was trying to sort out was that there are plenty of
> callsites that do a simple put_page() instead of calling unpin_user_page().
> IIRC, handling that correctly in existing code -- what was pinned must be
> released via unpin_user_page() -- was the biggest workitem.
> 
> Not sure how that relates to your work here (that's why I was asking): if
> you could avoid FOLL_GET, that would be great :)

Take a good look at iter_to_pipe().  It does *not* need to pin anything
(we have an ITER_SOURCE there); with this approach it will.  And it
will stuff those pinned references into a pipe, where they can sit
indefinitely.

IOW, I don't believe it's a usable approach.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-26 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20230120175556.3556978-1-dhowells@redhat.com>
2023-01-20 17:55 ` David Howells
2023-01-21 13:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-21 13:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-21 13:30   ` David Howells
2023-01-21 13:33     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-23 11:28   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 11:51   ` David Howells
2023-01-23 13:11     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 13:19     ` David Howells
2023-01-23 13:24       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 19:56         ` John Hubbard
2023-01-26 22:15         ` Al Viro [this message]
2023-01-26 23:41           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-27  0:05           ` David Howells
2023-01-27  0:20             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 13:38       ` David Howells
2023-01-23 14:20         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-23 14:48           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-23 16:11         ` Jan Kara
2023-01-23 16:17           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-23 23:07           ` John Hubbard
2023-01-24  5:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-24  6:55               ` John Hubbard
2023-01-23 12:00   ` David Howells
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 3/8] mm: Provide a helper to drop a pin/ref on a page David Howells
2023-01-20 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 8/8] mm: Renumber FOLL_GET and FOLL_PIN down David Howells
2023-01-20 18:59   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-20 19:18   ` David Howells

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