From: Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
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Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
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Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
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Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
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Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable] lib/Kconfig.debug: do not enable DEBUG_PREEMPT by default
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 20:54:15 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y8vSZ+gOFXWDKC8Z@hyeyoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86e68d3b-b029-5e82-5bbc-e0ccc2ae1d36@suse.cz>
On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 12:29:44PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 1/21/23 04:39, Hyeonggon Yoo wrote:
> > In workloads where this_cpu operations are frequently performed,
> > enabling DEBUG_PREEMPT may result in significant increase in
> > runtime overhead due to frequent invocation of
> > __this_cpu_preempt_check() function.
> >
> > This can be demonstrated through benchmarks such as hackbench where this
> > configuration results in a 10% reduction in performance, primarily due to
> > the added overhead within memcg charging path.
> >
> > Therefore, do not to enable DEBUG_PREEMPT by default and make users aware
> > of its potential impact on performance in some workloads.
> >
> > hackbench-process-sockets
> > debug_preempt no_debug_preempt
> > Amean 1 0.4743 ( 0.00%) 0.4295 * 9.45%*
> > Amean 4 1.4191 ( 0.00%) 1.2650 * 10.86%*
> > Amean 7 2.2677 ( 0.00%) 2.0094 * 11.39%*
> > Amean 12 3.6821 ( 0.00%) 3.2115 * 12.78%*
> > Amean 21 6.6752 ( 0.00%) 5.7956 * 13.18%*
> > Amean 30 9.6646 ( 0.00%) 8.5197 * 11.85%*
> > Amean 48 15.3363 ( 0.00%) 13.5559 * 11.61%*
> > Amean 79 24.8603 ( 0.00%) 22.0597 * 11.27%*
> > Amean 96 30.1240 ( 0.00%) 26.8073 * 11.01%*
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
>
> Looks like it's there since the beginning of preempt and pre-git. But
> probably should be something for scheduler maintainers rather than mm/slab,
> even if the impact manifests there. You did Cc Ingo (the original author) so
> let me Cc the rest here.
Whew, I still get confused about who to Cc, thanks for adding them.
and I also didn't include the percpu memory allocator maintainers, who may
have opinion. let's add them too.
>
> > ---
> > lib/Kconfig.debug | 5 ++++-
> > 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/lib/Kconfig.debug b/lib/Kconfig.debug
> > index ddbfac2adf9c..f6f845a4b9ec 100644
> > --- a/lib/Kconfig.debug
> > +++ b/lib/Kconfig.debug
> > @@ -1176,13 +1176,16 @@ config DEBUG_TIMEKEEPING
> > config DEBUG_PREEMPT
> > bool "Debug preemptible kernel"
> > depends on DEBUG_KERNEL && PREEMPTION && TRACE_IRQFLAGS_SUPPORT
> > - default y
> > help
> > If you say Y here then the kernel will use a debug variant of the
> > commonly used smp_processor_id() function and will print warnings
> > if kernel code uses it in a preemption-unsafe way. Also, the kernel
> > will detect preemption count underflows.
> >
> > + This option has potential to introduce high runtime overhead,
> > + depending on workload as it triggers debugging routines for each
> > + this_cpu operation. It should only be used for debugging purposes.
> > +
> > menu "Lock Debugging (spinlocks, mutexes, etc...)"
> >
> > config LOCK_DEBUGGING_SUPPORT
>
--
Thanks,
Hyeonggon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-21 11:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-21 3:39 Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-01-21 11:29 ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-01-21 11:54 ` Hyeonggon Yoo [this message]
2023-01-23 8:58 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-25 15:41 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-01-25 9:51 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-27 11:43 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-01-27 12:33 ` Michal Hocko
2023-01-23 11:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2023-01-24 16:34 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-01-23 14:01 ` Mel Gorman
2023-01-26 2:02 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-01-27 11:45 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-02-02 3:09 ` Davidlohr Bueso
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