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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>
To: "Yu, Fenghua" <fenghua.yu@intel.com>
Cc: Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>,
	"Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	"dmaengine@vger.kernel.org" <dmaengine@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Zhu, Tony" <tony.zhu@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/17] mm: export access_remote_vm() symbol
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 20:13:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y7SMYF8MlzeqDgp+@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <IA1PR11MB609703A614F64CD34FA8F02D9BF49@IA1PR11MB6097.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, Jan 03, 2023 at 07:20:11PM +0000, Yu, Fenghua wrote:
> Hi, Lorenzo,
>

Hey Fenghua :)

> access_remote_vm(mm) directly call __access_remote_vm(mm).
> access_process_vm(tsk) calls mm=get_task_mm() then __access_remote_vm(mm).
>
> So instead of access_remote_vm(mm), it's access_process_vm(tsk) that holds
> a reference count on the mm, right?

Indeed!

>
> > >
> > > Is there a reason you can't use access_process_vm() which is exported
> > > and additionally handles the refrencing?
>
> IDXD interrupt handler starts a work which needs to access remote vm.
> The remote mm is found by PASID which is saved in device event log.
>
> In the work, it's hard to get the remote mm from a task because mm->owner could be NULL
> but the mm is still existing.

That makes sense, however I do feel nervous about exporting something that that
relies on this reference.

The issue is ensuring that the mm can't be taken from underneath you, the only
user of access_remote_vm(), procfs, does a careful dance using get_task_mm() and
mm_access() to ensure this can't happen, if _sometimes_ the remote mm might have
an owner and _sometimes_ not it feels like any exported function needs to be
equally careful?

I definitely don't feel as if simply exporting this is a safe option, and you
would in that case need a new function that handles different scenarios of mm
ownership/not.

I may be missing something here and I will wait for others to chime in but I
think we would definitely need something more than simply exporting this.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-03 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20230103163505.1569356-1-fenghua.yu@intel.com>
2023-01-03 16:34 ` Fenghua Yu
2023-01-03 17:45   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-01-03 17:50     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-01-03 19:20       ` Yu, Fenghua
2023-01-03 20:13         ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2023-01-04  5:06           ` Yu, Fenghua
2023-01-04  6:12             ` Alistair Popple
2023-01-04 19:00               ` Yu, Fenghua
2023-01-04 20:00                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-01-04 19:56               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-01-04 21:05                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-01-04 23:57                 ` Alistair Popple
2023-01-05  3:08                   ` Yu, Fenghua
2023-01-05  3:22                     ` Alistair Popple
2023-01-05 20:58                       ` Yu, Fenghua
2023-01-05 21:04                         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-01-05  7:26                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-01-08 17:36     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-03-01 23:39       ` Fenghua Yu
     [not found] <20230103162920.1569002-1-fenghua.yu@intel.com>
2023-01-03 16:29 ` Fenghua Yu

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