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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: "Fabio M. De Francesco" <fmdefrancesco@gmail.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/highmem: Add notes about conversions from kmap{,_atomic}()
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2022 09:00:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y5BIHdnP4yeJ8svL@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2093077.OBFZWjSADL@suse>

On 2022-12-06 20:12:13 [+0100], Fabio M. De Francesco wrote:
> >   Furthermore, code between the kmap_atomic() and kunmap_atomic()
> >   functions may implicitly depended 
> 
> I suppose it should be "depend"? Shouldn't it?

Ehm, yes, correct.

> >   on the side effects of kmap_atomic()
> >   namely disabling pagefaults or preemption or both.
> 
> I agree with you for rephrasing, mainly because it is 
> written in poor English.
> 
> However, I still have doubts about why you deleted "migration". 
> AFAIK, __kmap_local_pfn_prot() always takes care of disabling migration for 
> HIGHMEM enabled kernels. 

That is correct. Historically kmap_atomic() never had a
migrate_disable() statement - only preempt_disable(). With disabled
preemption the task migration is implicitly disabled.

> How about !HIGHMEM, where kmap_local_page() is an indirect call to 
> page_address()? Did you mean that, if the code between kmap_atomic() and 
> kunmap_atomic() depended on migrate_disable() (in PREEMPT_RT) we should always 
> just stay safe and call preempt_disable() together with conversion to 
> kmap_local_page()?

Even in the !HIGHMEM case it always uses preempt_disable(). With
PREEMPT_RT it is different as it never disabled preemption and always
did a migrate_disable() instead. If you talk about what needs to be
considered while migrating away from kmap_atomic() then I wouldn't add
the PREEMPT_RT bits to it since it was never in the picture while the
code (using kmap_atomic()) was originally written.

> If so, I understand and I again agree with you. If not, I'm missing something; 
> so please let me understand properly.
> 
> Aside from the above, I'm not sure whether you deleted the last phrase before 
> your suggestion. What about making it to become "For the above-mentioned 
> cases, conversions should also explicitly disable page-faults and/or 
> preemption"? 

They need to disable preemption or page-faults or both if it is needed
(not unconditionally) and where it is needed. This means not
unconditionally over the whole kmap-ed section.

> Thanks again for noticing my mistakes.
> 
> Fabio

Sebastian


  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-07  8:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-06  7:00 Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-12-06  8:00 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-12-06 19:12   ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-12-07  8:00     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2022-12-07 13:01       ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-12-07 13:51         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-12-07 23:03           ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-12-06 19:14   ` Fabio M. De Francesco

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