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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Sidhartha Kumar <sidhartha.kumar@oracle.com>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <naoya.horiguchi@linux.dev>,
	Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>,
	James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>,
	Zach O'Keefe <zokeefe@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] mm,thp,rmap: rework the use of subpages_mapcount
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 01:55:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3xya5802BhoFin0@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3xk1hX5QrCZMT4q@casper.infradead.org>

On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 05:57:42AM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 01:52:23PM -0500, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > That leaves clearing writeback. This can't hold the page lock due to
> > the atomic context, so currently we need to take lock_page_memcg() as
> > the lock of last resort.
> > 
> > I wonder if we can have cgroup take the xalock instead: writeback
> > ending on file pages always acquires the xarray lock. Swap writeback
> > currently doesn't, but we could make it so (swap_address_space).
> > 
> > The only thing that gives me pause is the !mapping check in
> > __folio_end_writeback. File and swapcache pages usually have mappings,
> > and truncation waits for writeback to finish before axing
> > page->mapping. So AFAICS this can only happen if we call end_writeback
> > on something that isn't under writeback - in which case the test_clear
> > will fail and we don't update the stats anyway. But I want to be sure.
> > 
> > Does anybody know from the top of their heads if a page under
> > writeback could be without a mapping in some weird cornercase?
> 
> I can't think of such a corner case.  We should always wait for
> writeback to finish before removing the page from the page cache;
> the writeback bit used to be (and kind of still is) an implicit
> reference to the page, which means that we can't remove the page
> cache's reference to the page without waiting for writeback.

Great, thanks!

> > If we could ensure that the NR_WRITEBACK decs are always protected by
> > the xalock, we could grab it from mem_cgroup_move_account(), and then
> > kill lock_page_memcg() altogether.
> 
> I'm not thrilled by this idea, but I'm not going to veto it.

Ok, I'm also happy to drop this one.

Certainly, the rmap one is the lowest-hanging fruit. I have the patch
rebased against Hugh's series in mm-unstable; I'll wait for that to
settle down, and then send an updated version to Andrew.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-22  6:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-03  1:44 [PATCH 0/3] mm,huge,rmap: unify and speed up compound mapcounts Hugh Dickins
2022-11-03  1:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm,hugetlb: use folio fields in second tail page Hugh Dickins
2022-11-03 21:18   ` Sidhartha Kumar
2022-11-04  4:29     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-10  0:11       ` Sidhartha Kumar
2022-11-10  2:10         ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-10  2:13           ` [PATCH 1/3 fix] mm,hugetlb: use folio fields in second tail page: fix Hugh Dickins
2022-11-05 19:13   ` [PATCH 1/3] mm,hugetlb: use folio fields in second tail page Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-10  1:58     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-03  1:51 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm,thp,rmap: simplify compound page mapcount handling Hugh Dickins
2022-11-05 19:51   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-10  2:49     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-03  1:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm,thp,rmap: lock_compound_mapcounts() on THP mapcounts Hugh Dickins
2022-11-05 20:06   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-10  3:31     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-10  2:18 ` [PATCH 4/3] mm,thp,rmap: handle the normal !PageCompound case first Hugh Dickins
2022-11-10  3:23   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-10  4:21     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-10 16:31     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-11-10 16:58       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-18  9:08 ` [PATCH 0/3] mm,thp,rmap: rework the use of subpages_mapcount Hugh Dickins
2022-11-18  9:12   ` [PATCH 1/3] mm,thp,rmap: subpages_mapcount of PTE-mapped subpages Hugh Dickins
2022-11-19  0:12     ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-19  0:37       ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-19  1:35         ` [PATCH 1/3 fix] mm,thp,rmap: subpages_mapcount of PTE-mapped subpages: fix Hugh Dickins
2022-11-21 12:38           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-22  9:13             ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-21 12:36     ` [PATCH 1/3] mm,thp,rmap: subpages_mapcount of PTE-mapped subpages Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-22  9:03       ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-18  9:14   ` [PATCH 2/3] mm,thp,rmap: subpages_mapcount COMPOUND_MAPPED if PMD-mapped Hugh Dickins
2022-11-21 13:09     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-22  9:33       ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-18  9:16   ` [PATCH 3/3] mm,thp,rmap: clean up the end of __split_huge_pmd_locked() Hugh Dickins
2022-11-21 13:24     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-11-18 20:18   ` [PATCH 0/3] mm,thp,rmap: rework the use of subpages_mapcount Linus Torvalds
2022-11-18 20:42     ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-18 20:51     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-18 22:03       ` Andrew Morton
2022-11-18 22:07         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-18 22:10         ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-18 22:23           ` Andrew Morton
2022-11-21 16:59   ` Shakeel Butt
2022-11-21 17:16     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-11-22 16:27       ` Shakeel Butt
2022-11-21 18:52     ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-22  1:32       ` Hugh Dickins
2022-11-22  5:57       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-11-22  6:55         ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2022-11-22 16:30           ` Shakeel Butt
2022-11-22  9:38   ` [PATCH v2 " Hugh Dickins
2022-11-22  9:42     ` [PATCH v2 1/3] mm,thp,rmap: subpages_mapcount of PTE-mapped subpages Hugh Dickins
2022-11-22  9:49     ` [PATCH v2 2/3] mm,thp,rmap: subpages_mapcount COMPOUND_MAPPED if PMD-mapped Hugh Dickins
2022-11-22  9:51     ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mm,thp,rmap: clean up the end of __split_huge_pmd_locked() Hugh Dickins
2022-12-05  1:38       ` Hugh Dickins

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