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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Zhongkun He <hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	corbet@lwn.net, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [PATCH v2] mm: add new syscall pidfd_set_mempolicy().
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2022 15:57:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3T6SqZvAmSG5I6W@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0bd0b744-3d97-b4c3-a4fb-6040f8f8024a@bytedance.com>

On Wed 16-11-22 19:28:10, Zhongkun He wrote:
> Hi Michal, I've done the performance testing, please check it out.
> 
> > > Yes this is all understood but the level of the overhead is not really
> > > clear. So the question is whether this will induce a visible overhead.
> > > Because from the maintainability point of view it is much less costly to
> > > have a clear life time model. Right now we have a mix of reference
> > > counting and per-task requirements which is rather subtle and easy to
> > > get wrong. In an ideal world we would have get_vma_policy always
> > > returning a reference counted policy or NULL. If we really need to
> > > optimize for cache line bouncing we can go with per cpu reference
> > > counters (something that was not available at the time the mempolicy
> > > code has been introduced).
> > > 
> > > So I am not saying that the task_work based solution is not possible I
> > > just think that this looks like a good opportunity to get from the
> > > existing subtle model.
> 
> Test tools:
> numactl -m 0-3 ./run-mmtests.sh -n -c configs/config-workload-
> aim9-pagealloc  test_name
> 
> Modification:
> Get_vma_policy(), get_task_policy() always returning a reference
> counted policy, except for the static policy(default_policy and
> preferred_node_policy[nid]).

It would be better to add the patch that has been tested.

> All vma manipulation is protected by a down_read, so mpol_get()
> can be called directly to take a refcount on the mpol. but there
> is no lock in task->mempolicy context.
> so task->mempolicy should be protected by task_lock.
> 
> struct mempolicy *get_task_policy(struct task_struct *p)
> {
> 	struct mempolicy *pol;
> 	int node;
> 
> 	if (p->mempolicy) {
> 		task_lock(p);
> 		pol = p->mempolicy;
> 		mpol_get(pol);
> 		task_unlock(p);
> 		if (pol)
> 			return pol;
> 	}


One way to deal with that would be to use a similar model as css_tryget

Btw. have you tried to profile those slowdowns to identify hotspots?

Thanks
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-16 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-11  8:40 Zhongkun He
2022-11-11 19:27 ` Andrew Morton
2022-11-13 16:41   ` [External] " Zhongkun He
2022-11-14 11:44     ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-14 11:46       ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-14 17:52         ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-14 15:12       ` Zhongkun He
2022-11-14 18:12         ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-15  7:39           ` Zhongkun He
2022-11-16 11:28             ` Zhongkun He
2022-11-16 14:57               ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2022-11-17  7:19                 ` Zhongkun He
2022-11-21 14:38                   ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-22  8:33                     ` Zhongkun He
2022-11-22  8:40                       ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-14  9:24   ` Zhongkun He
2022-11-12  2:09 ` kernel test robot
2022-11-16  7:04 ` Huang, Ying
2022-11-16  9:38   ` [External] " Zhongkun He
2022-11-16  9:44     ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-17  6:29       ` Huang, Ying

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