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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: Eric DeVolder <eric.devolder@oracle.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	dyoung@redhat.com, vgoyal@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	nramas@linux.microsoft.com, thomas.lendacky@amd.com,
	robh@kernel.org, efault@gmx.de, rppt@kernel.org,
	sourabhjain@linux.ibm.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 7/7] x86/crash: Add x86 crash hotplug support
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2022 12:27:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y1yrmbHnHeXTTiYn@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <368a61e7-818b-2ee4-8c8b-22218373622d@oracle.com>

On 10/27/22 at 02:28pm, Eric DeVolder wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/27/22 08:52, Baoquan He wrote:
> > On 10/26/22 at 04:54pm, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > On 26.10.22 16:48, Baoquan He wrote:
> > > > On 10/25/22 at 12:31pm, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 10:57:28AM +0800, Baoquan He wrote:
> > > > > > The concern to range number mainly is on Virt guest systems.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And why would virt emulate 1K hotpluggable DIMM slots and not emulate a
> > > > > real machine?
> > > 
> > > IIRC, ACPI only allows for 256 slots. PPC dlpar might provide more.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Well, currently, mem hotpug is an important feature on virt system to
> > > > dynamically increase/shrink memory on the system. If only emulating real
> > > > machine, it won't be different than bare metal system.
> > > > 
> > > > IIRC, the ballon driver or virtio-mem feature can add memory board, e.g
> > > > 1G, block size is 128M, 8 blocks added. When shrinking this 1G memory
> > > > later, it will take best effort way to hot remove memory. Means if any
> > > > memory block is occupied, it will be kept there. Finally we could only
> > > > remove every second blocks, 4 blocks altogether. Then the left
> > > > un-removed blocks will produce 4 separate memory regions. Like this, a
> > > > virt guest could have many memory regions in kernel after memory
> > > > being added/removed.
> > > > 
> > > > If I am wrong, Please correct me, David.
> > > 
> > > Yes, virtio-mem (but also PPC dlpar) can result in many individual memory
> > > blocks with holes in between after hotunplug. Hotplug OTOH, usually tries to
> > > "plug" these holes and reduce the total number of memory blocks. It might be
> > > rare that our range will be heavily fragmented after unplug, but it's
> > > certainly possible.
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, now assume we have a HPE SGI system and it has memory hotplug
> > > > capacity. The system itself has already got memory regions more than
> > > > 1024. Then when we hot add extra memory board, we want to include the
> > > > newly added memory regions into elfcorehdr so that it will be dumped out
> > > > in kdump kernel.
> > > > 
> > > > That's why I earlier suggested 2048 for number of memory regions.
> > > 
> > > The more the better, unless "it hurts". Assuming a single memory block is
> > > 128 MiB, that would be 256 GiB.
> > > 
> > > Usually, on big systems, the memory block size is 2 GiB. So 4 TiB.
> > 
> > Thanks a lot for these valuable inputs, David.
> > 
> > Hi Boris, Eric
> > 
> > So what's your suggested value for the Kconfig option?
> > 
> > 1) cpu number, 1024?
> > 2) memory regions, 2048?
> > 
> > About below draft, any comment? We can decide a value based on our
> > knowledge, can adjust later if any real system has more than the number.
> > 
> > +config CRASH_ELF_CORE_PHDRS_NUM
> > +       depends on CRASH_DUMP && KEXEC_FILE && (HOTPLUG_CPU || MEMORY_HOTPLUG)
> > +       int
> > +       default 3072
> > +       help
> > +         For the kexec_file_load path, specify the default number of
> > +         phdr for the vmcore. E.g the memory regions represented by the
> > +         'System RAM' entries in /proc/iomem, the cpu notes of each
> > +         present cpu stored in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuX/crash_notes.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Baoquan
> > 
> 
> I prefer to keep CRASH_MAX_MEMORY_RANGES, as explained in my response to your message on October 26.
> eric

Ah, sorry, I mixed it up with NR_CPUS. I went on an office outing
yesterday, glad to see you and Boris have made an agreement on the code
change and value. Thanks.


> 



  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-29  4:27 UTC|newest]

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2022-09-30 16:50           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-30 17:11             ` Eric DeVolder
2022-09-30 17:40               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-08  2:35                 ` Baoquan He
2022-10-12 17:46                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-12 20:19                     ` Eric DeVolder
2022-10-12 20:41                       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-13  2:57                         ` Baoquan He
2022-10-25 10:31                           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-26 14:48                             ` Baoquan He
2022-10-26 14:54                               ` David Hildenbrand
2022-10-27 13:52                                 ` Baoquan He
2022-10-27 19:28                                   ` Eric DeVolder
2022-10-29  4:27                                     ` Baoquan He [this message]
2022-10-27 19:24                               ` Eric DeVolder
2022-10-28 10:19                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-28 15:29                                   ` Eric DeVolder
2022-10-28 17:06                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-28 19:26                                       ` Eric DeVolder
2022-10-28 20:30                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-28 20:34                                           ` Eric DeVolder
2022-10-28 21:22                                           ` Eric DeVolder
2022-10-28 22:19                                             ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-12 20:42                       ` Eric DeVolder
2022-10-12 16:20                 ` Eric DeVolder
2022-10-25 10:39                   ` Borislav Petkov

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