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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Aneesh Kumar K V <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Zefan Li <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"cgroups@vger.kernel.org" <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"Chen, Tim C" <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	"Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/vmscan: respect cpuset policy during page demotion
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 11:02:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y1pJG+d+kXJgjNMc@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <22590f74-ec91-e673-32df-8a04b4ab3931@linux.ibm.com>

On Wed 26-10-22 18:05:46, Aneesh Kumar K V wrote:
> On 10/26/22 5:51 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Wed 26-10-22 17:38:06, Aneesh Kumar K V wrote:
> >> On 10/26/22 4:32 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >>> On Wed 26-10-22 16:12:25, Aneesh Kumar K V wrote:
> >>>> On 10/26/22 2:49 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed 26-10-22 16:00:13, Feng Tang wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 03:49:48PM +0800, Aneesh Kumar K V wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 10/26/22 1:13 PM, Feng Tang wrote:
> >>>>>>>> In page reclaim path, memory could be demoted from faster memory tier
> >>>>>>>> to slower memory tier. Currently, there is no check about cpuset's
> >>>>>>>> memory policy, that even if the target demotion node is not allowd
> >>>>>>>> by cpuset, the demotion will still happen, which breaks the cpuset
> >>>>>>>> semantics.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So add cpuset policy check in the demotion path and skip demotion
> >>>>>>>> if the demotion targets are not allowed by cpuset.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What about the vma policy or the task memory policy? Shouldn't we respect
> >>>>>>> those memory policy restrictions while demoting the page? 
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>> Good question! We have some basic patches to consider memory policy
> >>>>>> in demotion path too, which are still under test, and will be posted
> >>>>>> soon. And the basic idea is similar to this patch.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For that you need to consult each vma and it's owning task(s) and that
> >>>>> to me sounds like something to be done in folio_check_references.
> >>>>> Relying on memcg to get a cpuset cgroup is really ugly and not really
> >>>>> 100% correct. Memory controller might be disabled and then you do not
> >>>>> have your association anymore.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I was looking at this recently and I am wondering whether we should worry about VM_SHARE
> >>>> vmas. 
> >>>>
> >>>> ie, page_to_policy() can just reverse lookup just one VMA and fetch the policy right?
> >>>
> >>> How would that help for private mappings shared between parent/child?
> >>
> >>
> >> this is MAP_PRIVATE | MAP_SHARED?
> > 
> 
> Sorry, I meant MAP_ANONYMOUS | MAP_SHARED. 

I am still not sure where you are targeting to be honest. MAP_SHARED or
MAP_PRIVATE both can have page shared between several vmas.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-27  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-26  7:43 Feng Tang
2022-10-26  7:49 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-26  8:00   ` Feng Tang
2022-10-26  9:19     ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-26 10:42       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-26 11:02         ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-26 12:08           ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-26 12:21             ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-26 12:35               ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-27  9:02                 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2022-10-27 10:16                   ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-27 13:05                     ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-26 12:20       ` Feng Tang
2022-10-26 15:59         ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-26 17:57           ` Yang Shi
2022-10-27  7:11             ` Feng Tang
2022-10-27  7:45               ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27  7:51                 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-27 17:55               ` Yang Shi
2022-10-28  3:37                 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-28  5:54                   ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-28 17:23                     ` Yang Shi
2022-10-31  1:56                       ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-31  2:19                       ` Feng Tang
2022-10-28  5:09                 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-10-28 17:16                   ` Yang Shi
2022-10-31  1:53                     ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27  6:47           ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27  7:10             ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-27  7:39               ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27  8:01                 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-27  9:31                   ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27 12:29                     ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-27 23:22                       ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-31  8:40                         ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-31  8:51                           ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-31  9:18                             ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-31 14:09                           ` Feng Tang
2022-10-31 14:32                             ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-07  8:05                               ` Feng Tang
2022-11-07  8:17                                 ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-01  3:17                     ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-26  8:26 ` Yin, Fengwei
2022-10-26  8:37   ` Feng Tang
2022-10-26 14:36 ` Waiman Long
2022-10-27  5:57   ` Feng Tang
2022-10-27  5:13 ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27  5:49   ` Feng Tang
2022-10-27  6:05     ` Huang, Ying

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