From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Vishal Moola <vishal.moola@gmail.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
"Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Folio mapcount
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2023 17:39:07 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+LTCxmfMnJjgv/n@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y+FkV4fBxHlp6FTH@casper.infradead.org>
On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 08:34:31PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 06:13:21PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > Once we get to the part of the folio journey where we have
> > one-pointer-per-page, we can't afford to maintain per-page state.
> > Currently we maintain a per-page mapcount, and that will have to go.
> > We can maintain extra state for a multi-page folio, but it has to be a
> > constant amount of extra state no matter how many pages are in the folio.
> >
> > My proposal is that we maintain a single mapcount per folio, and its
> > definition is the number of (vma, page table) tuples which have a
> > reference to any pages in this folio.
>
> I've been thinking about this a lot more, and I have changed my
> mind. It works fine to answer the question "Is any page in this
> folio mapped", but it's now hard to answer the question "I have it
> mapped, does anybody else?" That question is asked, for example,
> in madvise_cold_or_pageout_pte_range().
I'm curious whether it is still fine in rare cases - IMHO it's a matter of
when it'll go severely wrong if the mapcount should be exactly 1 (it's
privately owned by a vma) but we reported 2.
In this MADV_COLD/MADV_PAGEOUT case we'll skip COLD or PAGEOUT some pages
even if we can, but is it a deal breaker (if the benefit of the change can
be proved and worthwhile)? Especially, this only happens with unaligned
folios being mapped.
Is unaligned mapping for a folio common? Is there any other use cases that
can go worse than this one?
(E.g., IIUC superfluous but occasional CoW seems fine)
OTOH...
>
> With this definition, if the mapcount is 1, it's definitely only mapped
> by us. If it's more than 2, it's definitely mapped by somebody else (*).
> If it's 2, maybe we have the folio mapped twice, and maybe we have it
> mapped once and somebody else has it mapped once, so we have to consult
> the rmap to find out. Not fun times.
>
> (*) If we support folios larger than PMD size, then the answer is more
> complex.
>
> I now think the mapcount has to be defined as "How many VMAs have
> one-or-more pages of this folio mapped".
>
> That means that our future folio_add_file_rmap_range() looks a bit
> like this:
>
> {
> bool add_mapcount = true;
>
> if (nr < folio_nr_pages(folio))
> add_mapcount = !folio_has_ptes(folio, vma);
> if (add_mapcount)
> atomic_inc(&folio->_mapcount);
>
> __lruvec_stat_mod_folio(folio, NR_FILE_MAPPED, nr);
> if (nr == HPAGE_PMD_NR)
> __lruvec_stat_mod_folio(folio, folio_test_swapbacked(folio) ?
> NR_SHMEM_PMDMAPPED : NR_FILE_PMDMAPPED, nr);
>
> mlock_vma_folio(folio, vma, nr == HPAGE_PMD_NR);
> }
>
> bool folio_mapped_in_vma(struct folio *folio, struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> {
> unsigned long address = vma_address(&folio->page, vma);
> DEFINE_FOLIO_VMA_WALK(pvmw, folio, vma, address, 0);
>
> if (!page_vma_mapped_walk(&pvmw))
> return false;
> page_vma_mapped_walk_done(&pvmw);
> return true;
> }
>
> ... some details to be fixed here; particularly this will currently
> deadlock on the PTL, so we'd need not only to exclude the current
> PMD from being examined, but also avoid a deadly embrace between
> two threads (do we currently have a locking order defined for
> page table locks at the same height of the tree?)
... it starts to sound scary if it needs to take >1 pgtable locks.
Thanks,
--
Peter Xu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-07 22:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-24 18:13 Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-24 18:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-24 18:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-24 18:35 ` Yang Shi
2023-02-02 3:45 ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-02 15:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-07 16:19 ` Zi Yan
2023-02-07 16:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-06 20:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-06 22:55 ` Yang Shi
2023-02-06 23:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-07 3:06 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-02-07 4:08 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-07 22:39 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2023-02-07 23:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-08 19:40 ` Peter Xu
2023-02-08 20:25 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-08 20:58 ` Peter Xu
2023-02-09 15:10 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-09 15:43 ` Peter Xu
2023-02-07 22:56 ` James Houghton
2023-02-07 23:08 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-07 23:27 ` James Houghton
2023-02-07 23:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-08 0:35 ` James Houghton
2023-02-08 2:26 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-07 16:23 ` Zi Yan
2023-02-07 16:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-08 19:36 ` Zi Yan
2023-02-08 19:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-10 15:15 ` Zi Yan
2023-03-29 14:02 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-01 1:17 ` Zi Yan
2023-07-02 9:50 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-02 11:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-02 12:26 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-03 20:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-02 19:51 ` Zi Yan
2023-07-03 1:09 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-03 13:24 ` Zi Yan
2023-07-03 20:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-04 1:22 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04 2:25 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-03 21:09 ` David Hildenbrand
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-12-15 21:55 folio mapcount Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-16 9:37 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-16 13:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-16 15:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-16 15:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-16 16:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-16 17:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-16 18:56 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
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