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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Vishal Moola <vishal.moola@gmail.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	"Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Folio mapcount
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2023 16:51:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+KBnOWnUCNCef1P@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D39C625D-752A-4FAD-B911-A235A94131B9@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 11:23:31AM -0500, Zi Yan wrote:
> On 24 Jan 2023, at 13:13, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> 
> > Once we get to the part of the folio journey where we have
> > one-pointer-per-page, we can't afford to maintain per-page state.
> > Currently we maintain a per-page mapcount, and that will have to go.
> > We can maintain extra state for a multi-page folio, but it has to be a
> > constant amount of extra state no matter how many pages are in the folio.
> >
> > My proposal is that we maintain a single mapcount per folio, and its
> > definition is the number of (vma, page table) tuples which have a
> > reference to any pages in this folio.
> 
> How about having two, full_folio_mapcount and partial_folio_mapcount?
> If partial_folio_mapcount is 0, we can have a fast path without doing
> anything at page level.

A fast path for what?  I don't understand your vision; can you spell it
out for me?  My current proposal is here:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/Y+FkV4fBxHlp6FTH@casper.infradead.org/

The three questions we need to be able to answer (in my current
understanding) are laid out here:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/Y+HblAN5bM1uYD2f@casper.infradead.org/

Of course, the vision also needs to include how we account in
folio_add_(anon|file|new_anon)_rmap() and folio_remove_rmap().

> > I think there's a good performance win and simplification to be had
> > here, so I think it's worth doing for 6.4.
> >
> > Examples
> > --------
> >
> > In the simple and common case where every page in a folio is mapped
> > once by a single vma and single page table, mapcount would be 1 [1].
> > If the folio is mapped across a page table boundary by a single VMA,
> > after we take a page fault on it in one page table, it gets a mapcount
> > of 1.  After taking a page fault on it in the other page table, its
> > mapcount increases to 2.
> >
> > For a PMD-sized THP naturally aligned, mapcount is 1.  Splitting the
> > PMD into PTEs would not change the mapcount; the folio remains order-9
> > but it stll has a reference from only one page table (a different page
> > table, but still just one).
> >
> > Implementation sketch
> > ---------------------
> >
> > When we take a page fault, we can/should map every page in the folio
> > that fits in this VMA and this page table.  We do this at present in
> > filemap_map_pages() by looping over each page in the folio and calling
> > do_set_pte() on each.  We should have a:
> >
> >                 do_set_pte_range(vmf, folio, addr, first_page, n);
> >
> > and then change the API to page_add_new_anon_rmap() / page_add_file_rmap()
> > to pass in (folio, first, n) instead of page.  That gives us one call to
> > page_add_*_rmap() per (vma, page table) tuple.
> >
> > In try_to_unmap_one(), page_vma_mapped_walk() currently calls us for
> > each pfn.  We'll want a function like
> >         page_vma_mapped_walk_skip_to_end_of_ptable()
> > in order to persuade it to only call us once or twice if the folio
> > is mapped across a page table boundary.
> >
> > Concerns
> > --------
> >
> > We'll have to be careful to always zap all the PTEs for a given (vma,
> > pt) tuple at the same time, otherwise mapcount will get out of sync
> > (eg map three pages, unmap two; we shouldn't decrement the mapcount,
> > but I don't think we can know that.  But does this ever happen?  I think
> > we always unmap the entire folio, like in try_to_unmap_one().
> >
> > I haven't got my head around SetPageAnonExclusive() yet.  I think it can
> > be a per-folio bit, but handling a folio split across two page tables
> > may be tricky.
> >
> > Notes
> > -----
> >
> > [1] Ignoring the bias by -1 to let us detect transitions that we care
> > about more efficiently; I'm talking about the value returned from
> > page_mapcount(), not the value stored in page->_mapcount.
> 
> 
> --
> Best Regards,
> Yan, Zi




  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-07 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-24 18:13 Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-24 18:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-24 18:37   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-24 18:35 ` Yang Shi
2023-02-02  3:45 ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-02 15:31   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-07 16:19     ` Zi Yan
2023-02-07 16:44       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-06 20:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-06 22:55   ` Yang Shi
2023-02-06 23:09     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-07  3:06   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-02-07  4:08     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-07 22:39   ` Peter Xu
2023-02-07 23:27     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-08 19:40       ` Peter Xu
2023-02-08 20:25         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-08 20:58           ` Peter Xu
2023-02-09 15:10             ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-09 15:43               ` Peter Xu
2023-02-07 22:56   ` James Houghton
2023-02-07 23:08     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-07 23:27       ` James Houghton
2023-02-07 23:35         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-08  0:35           ` James Houghton
2023-02-08  2:26             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-07 16:23 ` Zi Yan
2023-02-07 16:51   ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-02-08 19:36     ` Zi Yan
2023-02-08 19:54       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-10 15:15         ` Zi Yan
2023-03-29 14:02         ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-01  1:17           ` Zi Yan
2023-07-02  9:50             ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-02 11:45               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-02 12:26                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-03 20:54                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-02 19:51                 ` Zi Yan
2023-07-03  1:09                   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-03 13:24                     ` Zi Yan
2023-07-03 20:46                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-04  1:22                       ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04  2:25                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-03 21:09                   ` David Hildenbrand
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-12-15 21:55 folio mapcount Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-16  9:37 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-16 13:56   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-16 15:19     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-16 15:54       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-16 16:45         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-16 17:01         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-16 18:56     ` Kirill A. Shutemov

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