From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Vishal Moola <vishal.moola@gmail.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
"Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Folio mapcount
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2023 16:44:32 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+J/8P43rgEbUjFJ@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8325B718-5179-43F8-B211-26D8DEBF77C2@nvidia.com>
On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 11:19:40AM -0500, Zi Yan wrote:
> On 2 Feb 2023, at 10:31, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 01, 2023 at 07:45:17PM -0800, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> >> On 01/24/23 18:13, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> >>> Once we get to the part of the folio journey where we have
> >>> one-pointer-per-page, we can't afford to maintain per-page state.
> >>> Currently we maintain a per-page mapcount, and that will have to go.
> >>> We can maintain extra state for a multi-page folio, but it has to be a
> >>> constant amount of extra state no matter how many pages are in the folio.
> >>>
> >>> My proposal is that we maintain a single mapcount per folio, and its
> >>> definition is the number of (vma, page table) tuples which have a
> >>> reference to any pages in this folio.
> >>
> >> Hi Matthew, finally took a look at this. Can you clarify your definition of
> >> 'page table' here? I think you are talking about all the entries within
> >> one page table page? Is that correct? It certainly makes sense in this
> >> context.
> >>
> >> I have always thought of page table as the entire tree structure starting at
> >> *pgd in the mm_struct. So, I was a bit confused. But, I now see elsewhere
> >> that 'page table' may refer to either.
> >
> > Yes, we're pretty sloppy about that. What I had in mind was:
> >
> > We have a large folio which is mapped at, say, (1.9MB - 2.1MB) in the
> > user address space. There are thus multiple PTEs which map it and some
> > of those PTEs belong to one PMD and the rest belong to a second PMD.
> > It has a mapcount of 2 due to being mapped by PTE entries belonging to
> > two PMD tables. If it were mapped at (2.1-2.3MB), it would have a
> > mapcount of 1 due to all its PTEs belonging to a single PMD table.
>
> What is the logic of using PMD as the basic counting unit? Why not use
> PTE or PUG? I just cannot understand the goal of doing this.
Locking and contiguity. If we try to map a folio across a PMD boundary,
we have to have the PTL on both PMDs at the same time (or all PMDs if we
support folios larger than PMD_SIZE). Then we have to make two (or more)
calls to set_ptes() to populate all the PTEs (so that arches don't have
to handle "Oh, I reached the end of the PMD, move to the next one").
Note that I've decided this approach doesn't work because it can't
easily tell us "Am I the only VMA which has this folio mapped?"
But this was the reason.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-07 16:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-24 18:13 Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-24 18:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-24 18:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-24 18:35 ` Yang Shi
2023-02-02 3:45 ` Mike Kravetz
2023-02-02 15:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-07 16:19 ` Zi Yan
2023-02-07 16:44 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-02-06 20:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-06 22:55 ` Yang Shi
2023-02-06 23:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-07 3:06 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-02-07 4:08 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-07 22:39 ` Peter Xu
2023-02-07 23:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-08 19:40 ` Peter Xu
2023-02-08 20:25 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-08 20:58 ` Peter Xu
2023-02-09 15:10 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-09 15:43 ` Peter Xu
2023-02-07 22:56 ` James Houghton
2023-02-07 23:08 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-07 23:27 ` James Houghton
2023-02-07 23:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-08 0:35 ` James Houghton
2023-02-08 2:26 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-07 16:23 ` Zi Yan
2023-02-07 16:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-08 19:36 ` Zi Yan
2023-02-08 19:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-10 15:15 ` Zi Yan
2023-03-29 14:02 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-01 1:17 ` Zi Yan
2023-07-02 9:50 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-02 11:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-02 12:26 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-03 20:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-02 19:51 ` Zi Yan
2023-07-03 1:09 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-03 13:24 ` Zi Yan
2023-07-03 20:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-04 1:22 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04 2:25 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-03 21:09 ` David Hildenbrand
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-12-15 21:55 folio mapcount Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-16 9:37 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-12-16 13:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-16 15:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-16 15:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-16 16:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-16 17:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-16 18:56 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
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