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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	tkhai@ya.ru, hannes@cmpxchg.org, shakeelb@google.com,
	mhocko@kernel.org, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, david@redhat.com, shy828301@gmail.com,
	sultan@kerneltoast.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
	penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp, paulmck@kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/8] make slab shrink lockless
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 17:08:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y/zHbhxnQ2YsP+wX@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b7e8929c-8fd5-a248-f8a8-d9177fc01b4b@bytedance.com>

Hi,

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 09:31:51PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2023/2/27 03:51, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 22:46:47 +0800 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > This patch series aims to make slab shrink lockless.
> > 
> > What an awesome changelog.
> > 
> > > 2. Survey
> > > =========
> > 
> > Especially this part.
> > 
> > Looking through all the prior efforts and at this patchset I am not
> > immediately seeing any statements about the overall effect upon
> > real-world workloads.  For a good example, does this patchset
> > measurably improve throughput or energy consumption on your servers?
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> I re-tested with the following physical machines:
> 
> Architecture:        x86_64
> CPU(s):              96
> On-line CPU(s) list: 0-95
> Model name:          Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8260 CPU @ 2.40GHz
> 
> I found that the reason for the hotspot I described in cover letter is
> wrong. The reason for the down_read_trylock() hotspot is not because of
> the failure to trylock, but simply because of the atomic operation
> (cmpxchg). And this will lead to a significant reduction in IPC (insn
> per cycle).

... 
 
> Then we can use the following perf command to view hotspots:
> 
> perf top -U -F 999
> 
> 1) Before applying this patchset:
> 
>   32.31%  [kernel]           [k] down_read_trylock
>   19.40%  [kernel]           [k] pv_native_safe_halt
>   16.24%  [kernel]           [k] up_read
>   15.70%  [kernel]           [k] shrink_slab
>    4.69%  [kernel]           [k] _find_next_bit
>    2.62%  [kernel]           [k] shrink_node
>    1.78%  [kernel]           [k] shrink_lruvec
>    0.76%  [kernel]           [k] do_shrink_slab
> 
> 2) After applying this patchset:
> 
>   27.83%  [kernel]           [k] _find_next_bit
>   16.97%  [kernel]           [k] shrink_slab
>   15.82%  [kernel]           [k] pv_native_safe_halt
>    9.58%  [kernel]           [k] shrink_node
>    8.31%  [kernel]           [k] shrink_lruvec
>    5.64%  [kernel]           [k] do_shrink_slab
>    3.88%  [kernel]           [k] mem_cgroup_iter
> 
> 2. At the same time, we use the following perf command to capture IPC
> information:
> 
> perf stat -e cycles,instructions -G test -a --repeat 5 -- sleep 10
> 
> 1) Before applying this patchset:
> 
>  Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs):
> 
>       454187219766      cycles                    test                    (
> +-  1.84% )
>        78896433101      instructions              test #    0.17  insn per
> cycle           ( +-  0.44% )
> 
>         10.0020430 +- 0.0000366 seconds time elapsed  ( +-  0.00% )
> 
> 2) After applying this patchset:
> 
>  Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (5 runs):
> 
>       841954709443      cycles                    test                    (
> +- 15.80% )  (98.69%)
>       527258677936      instructions              test #    0.63  insn per
> cycle           ( +- 15.11% )  (98.68%)
> 
>           10.01064 +- 0.00831 seconds time elapsed  ( +-  0.08% )
> 
> We can see that IPC drops very seriously when calling
> down_read_trylock() at high frequency. After using SRCU,
> the IPC is at a normal level.

The results you present do show improvement in IPC for an artificial test
script. But more interesting would be to see how a real world workloads
benefit from your changes.
 
> Thanks,
> Qi

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-27 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-26 14:46 Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] mm: vmscan: add a map_nr_max field to shrinker_info Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:54   ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] mm: vmscan: make global slab shrink lockless Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] mm: vmscan: make memcg " Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] mm: vmscan: add shrinker_srcu_generation Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] mm: shrinkers: make count and scan in shrinker debugfs lockless Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] mm: vmscan: hold write lock to reparent shrinker nr_deferred Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] mm: vmscan: remove shrinker_rwsem from synchronize_shrinkers() Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 14:46 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] mm: shrinkers: convert shrinker_rwsem to mutex Qi Zheng
2023-02-26 19:51 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] make slab shrink lockless Andrew Morton
2023-02-27 13:31   ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-27 15:08     ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2023-02-27 19:20       ` Kirill Tkhai
2023-02-27 19:32         ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-27 19:47           ` Kirill Tkhai
2023-02-28 10:08         ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-28 10:04       ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-28 10:53         ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-28 18:40       ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-01  2:27         ` Qi Zheng
2023-02-27 19:02     ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-28 10:11       ` Qi Zheng

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