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From: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
To: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>, Yue Zhao <findns94@gmail.com>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: change memcg->oom_group access with atomic operations
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 09:48:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y/UEBc4qyLIqHGIA@P9FQF9L96D.corp.robot.car> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61CA5FFC-547B-4F56-9238-C9096223BF80@linux.dev>

On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 03:22:32PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Feb 21, 2023, at 13:17, Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev> wrote:
> > 
> >> On Feb 20, 2023, at 3:06 PM, Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 01:09:44PM -0800, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 11:16:38PM +0800, Yue Zhao wrote:
> >>>> The knob for cgroup v2 memory controller: memory.oom.group
> >>>> will be read and written simultaneously by user space
> >>>> programs, thus we'd better change memcg->oom_group access
> >>>> with atomic operations to avoid concurrency problems.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Yue Zhao <findns94@gmail.com>
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Yue!
> >>> 
> >>> I'm curious, have any seen any real issues which your patch is solving?
> >>> Can you, please, provide a bit more details.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> IMHO such details are not needed. oom_group is being accessed
> >> concurrently and one of them can be a write access. At least
> >> READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE is needed here.
> > 
> > Needed for what?
> > 
> > I mean it’s obviously not a big deal to put READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE() here, but I struggle to imagine a scenario when it will make any difference. IMHO it’s easier to justify a proper atomic operation here, even if it’s most likely an overkill.
> > 
> > My question is very simple: the commit log mentions “… to avoid concurrency problems”, so I wonder what problems are these.
> 
> I think there is no difference in the assembly code between them in most
> cases. The only intention that I can think of is to avoid the potential
> complaint (data race) emitted by KCSAN.

+1

And it might be a totally good reason for this change, let's just make it clear,
instead of pretending to fix non-existing concurrency problems.

Thanks!


  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-21 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-20 15:16 Yue Zhao
2023-02-20 21:09 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-20 23:06   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-02-21  5:17     ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21  6:52       ` Shakeel Butt
2023-02-21 13:51         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-21 16:56           ` Shakeel Butt
2023-02-21 18:23             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-21 22:23               ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21 22:38                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-21 23:13                   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-02-21 23:38                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-21 23:57                       ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-22  0:37                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-22  4:28                           ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21 17:47           ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21 18:15             ` Shakeel Butt
2023-02-21 18:18             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-22  9:01           ` David Laight
2023-02-21 17:00         ` Martin Zhao
2023-02-21  7:22       ` Muchun Song
2023-02-21 17:48         ` Roman Gushchin [this message]
2023-02-21 17:00       ` Martin Zhao
2023-02-21 18:02         ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21  8:26     ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-21 17:00       ` Martin Zhao

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