From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Cloud storage optimizations
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 04:35:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y/7WJMNLjrQ+/+Vs@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y/7L74P6jSWwOvWt@mit.edu>
On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 10:52:15PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> For example, most cloud storage devices are doing read-ahead to try to
> anticipate read requests from the VM. This can interfere with the
> read-ahead being done by the guest kernel. So being able to tell
> cloud storage device whether a particular read request is stemming
> from a read-ahead or not. At the moment, as Matthew Wilcox has
> pointed out, we currently use the read-ahead code path for synchronous
> buffered reads. So plumbing this information so it can passed through
> multiple levels of the mm, fs, and block layers will probably be
> needed.
This shouldn't be _too_ painful. For example, the NVMe driver already
does the right thing:
if (req->cmd_flags & (REQ_FAILFAST_DEV | REQ_RAHEAD))
control |= NVME_RW_LR;
if (req->cmd_flags & REQ_RAHEAD)
dsmgmt |= NVME_RW_DSM_FREQ_PREFETCH;
(LR is Limited Retry; FREQ_PREFETCH is "Speculative read. The command
is part of a prefetch operation")
The only problem is that the readahead code doesn't tell the filesystem
whether the request is sync or async. This should be a simple matter
of adding a new 'bool async' to the readahead_control and then setting
REQ_RAHEAD based on that, rather than on whether the request came in
through readahead() or read_folio() (eg see mpage_readahead()).
Another thing to fix is that SCSI doesn't do anything with the REQ_RAHEAD
flag, so I presume T10 has some work to do (maybe they could borrow the
Access Frequency field from NVMe, since that was what the drive vendors
told us they wanted; maybe they changed their minds since).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-01 4:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-01 3:52 Theodore Ts'o
2023-03-01 4:18 ` Gao Xiang
2023-03-01 4:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-01 4:59 ` Gao Xiang
2023-03-01 4:35 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-03-01 4:49 ` Gao Xiang
2023-03-01 5:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-01 5:09 ` Gao Xiang
2023-03-01 5:19 ` Gao Xiang
2023-03-01 5:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-01 5:51 ` Gao Xiang
2023-03-01 6:00 ` Gao Xiang
2023-03-02 3:13 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2023-03-02 3:50 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-03-03 3:03 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-03-02 20:30 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-03-03 3:05 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-03-03 1:58 ` Keith Busch
2023-03-03 3:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-03 11:32 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-03 13:11 ` James Bottomley
2023-03-04 7:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-04 13:41 ` James Bottomley
2023-03-04 16:39 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-05 4:15 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-05 5:02 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-08 6:11 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-08 7:59 ` Dave Chinner
2023-03-06 12:04 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-06 3:50 ` James Bottomley
2023-03-04 19:04 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-03 21:45 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-03 22:07 ` Keith Busch
2023-03-03 22:14 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-03 22:32 ` Keith Busch
2023-03-03 23:09 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-16 15:29 ` Pankaj Raghav
2023-03-16 15:41 ` Pankaj Raghav
2023-03-03 23:51 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-03-04 11:08 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-04 13:24 ` Javier González
2023-03-04 16:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-04 17:17 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-04 17:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-04 18:53 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-05 3:06 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-03-05 11:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-06 8:23 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-06 10:05 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-06 16:12 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-03-08 17:53 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-08 18:13 ` James Bottomley
2023-03-09 8:04 ` Javier González
2023-03-09 13:11 ` James Bottomley
2023-03-09 14:05 ` Keith Busch
2023-03-09 15:23 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-03-09 20:49 ` James Bottomley
2023-03-09 21:13 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-09 21:28 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-03-10 1:16 ` Dan Helmick
2023-03-10 7:59 ` Javier González
2023-03-08 19:35 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-08 19:55 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-03-03 2:54 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-03-03 3:29 ` Keith Busch
2023-03-03 4:20 ` Theodore Ts'o
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