From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/userfaultfd: fix memory corruption due to writeprotect
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 20:36:04 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <X+K7JMrTEC9SpVIB@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X+Kxy3oBMSLz8Eaq@redhat.com>
On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 09:56:11PM -0500, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 04:39:46PM -0700, Yu Zhao wrote:
> > We are talking about non-COW anon pages here -- they can't be mapped
> > more than once. So why not just identify them by checking
> > page_mapcount == 1 and then unconditionally reuse them? (This is
> > probably where I've missed things.)
>
> The problem in depending on page_mapcount to decide if it's COW or
> non-COW (respectively wp_page_copy or wp_page_reuse) is that is GUP
> may elevate the count of a COW anon page that become a non-COW anon
> page.
>
> This is Jann's idea not mine.
>
> The problem is we have an unprivileged long term GUP like vmsplice
> that facilitates elevating the page count indefinitely, until the
> parent finally writes a secret to it. Theoretically a short term pin
> would do it too so it's not just vmpslice, but the short term pin
> would be incredibly more challenging to become a concern since it'd
> kill a phone battery and flash before it can read any data.
>
> So what happens with your page_mapcount == 1 check is that it doesn't
> mean non-COW (we thought it did until it didn't for the long term gup
> pin in vmsplice).
>
> Jann's testcases does fork() and set page_mapcount 2 and page_count to
> 2, vmsplice, take unprivileged infinitely long GUP pin to set
> page_count to 3, queue the page in the pipe with page_count elevated,
> munmap to drop page_count to 2 and page_mapcount to 1.
>
> page_mapcount is 1, so you'd think the page is non-COW and owned by
> the parent, but the child can still read it so it's very much still
> wp_page_copy material if the parent tries to modify it. Otherwise the
> child can read the content.
>
> This was supposed to be solvable by just doing the COW in gup(write=0)
> case if page_mapcount > 1 with commit 17839856fd58. I'm not exactly
> sure why that didn't fly and it had to be reverted by Peter in
> a308c71bf1e6e19cc2e4ced31853ee0fc7cb439a but at the time this was
> happening I was side tracked by urgent issues and I didn't manage to
> look back of how we ended up with the big hammer page_count == 1 check
> instead to decide if to call wp_page_reuse or wp_page_shared.
>
> So anyway, the only thing that is clear to me is that keeping the
> child from reading the page_mapcount == 1 pages of the parent, is the
> only reason why wp_page_reuse(vmf) will only be called on
> page_count(page) == 1 and not on page_mapcount(page) == 1.
>
> It's also the reason why your page_mapcount assumption will risk to
> reintroduce the issue, and I only wish we could put back page_mapcount
> == 1 back there.
>
> Still even if we put back page_mapcount there, it is not ok to leave
> the page fault with stale TLB entries and to rely on the fact
> wp_page_shared won't run. It'd also avoid the problem but I think if
> you leave stale TLB entries in change_protection just like NUMA
> balancing does, it also requires a catcher just like NUMA balancing
> has, or it'd truly work by luck.
>
> So until we can put a page_mapcount == 1 check back there, the
> page_count will be by definition unreliable because of the speculative
> lookups randomly elevating all non zero page_counts at any time in the
> background on all pages, so you will never be able to tell if a page
> is true COW or if it's just a spurious COW because of a speculative
> lookup. It is impossible to differentiate a speculative lookup from a
> vmsplice ref in a child.
Thanks for the details.
In your patch, do we need to take wrprotect_rwsem in
handle_userfault() as well? Otherwise, it seems userspace would have
to synchronize between its wrprotect ioctl and fault handler? i.e.,
the fault hander needs to be aware that the content of write-
protected pages can actually change before the iotcl returns.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-23 3:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-19 4:30 Nadav Amit
2020-12-19 19:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
[not found] ` <EDC00345-B46E-4396-8379-98E943723809@gmail.com>
2020-12-19 22:06 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-20 2:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 4:36 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 5:12 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 5:25 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 5:39 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 7:29 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 20:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-22 20:58 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 21:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-20 2:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-20 2:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-20 5:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-21 18:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 18:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-20 6:05 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-20 8:06 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-20 9:54 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 3:33 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 4:44 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 17:27 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 18:31 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 19:16 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 19:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 20:21 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 20:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 20:23 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 21:24 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 21:49 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 22:30 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 22:55 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-21 23:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 23:46 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 19:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 20:19 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 21:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 23:12 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 23:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22 0:00 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 0:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22 0:24 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-21 23:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22 3:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-22 4:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-22 20:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-05 15:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-05 18:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-12 16:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-12 11:43 ` Vinayak Menon
2021-01-12 15:47 ` Laurent Dufour
2021-01-12 16:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-01-12 19:02 ` Laurent Dufour
2021-01-12 19:15 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 19:56 ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-12 20:38 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 20:49 ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-12 21:43 ` Will Deacon
2021-01-12 22:29 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-12 22:46 ` Will Deacon
2021-01-13 0:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-17 4:41 ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-17 7:32 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-17 9:16 ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-17 10:13 ` Nadav Amit
2021-01-17 19:25 ` Yu Zhao
2021-01-18 2:49 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 9:38 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 19:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 20:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-12-22 20:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 21:14 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 22:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 23:39 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 23:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23 0:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23 0:23 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 2:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 9:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23 10:06 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 16:24 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 18:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 18:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 19:12 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 19:32 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 0:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-23 2:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 3:36 ` Yu Zhao [this message]
2020-12-23 15:52 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-23 21:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 21:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 22:29 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-23 23:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 1:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-12-24 2:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 3:09 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24 3:30 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24 3:34 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-24 4:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 5:18 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24 18:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 19:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-24 4:37 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-24 3:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 23:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-24 1:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-22 21:14 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 12:40 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-22 18:30 ` Yu Zhao
2020-12-22 19:20 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 16:23 ` Will Deacon
2020-12-23 19:04 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 22:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-23 22:45 ` Nadav Amit
2020-12-23 23:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2020-12-21 21:55 ` Peter Xu
2020-12-21 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-21 19:53 ` Peter Xu
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