From: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com>,
"Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Shiyang Ruan <ruansy.fnst@fujitsu.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org" <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>,
"dave@stgolabs.net" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
"Weiny, Ira" <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
"Schofield, Alison" <alison.schofield@intel.com>,
"Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
"Verma, Vishal L" <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
"Robert Richter" <rric@kernel.org>,
"linux-edac@vger.kernel.org" <linux-edac@vger.kernel.org>,
Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>,
"Naoya Horiguchi" <nao.horiguchi@gmail.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH] cxl: avoid duplicating report from MCE & device
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 20:44:12 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ1PR11MB6083837A8588894E49FEBC7BFCC92@SJ1PR11MB6083.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240621194506.000024aa@Huawei.com>
> So who actually cares about recovering poisoned volatile memory?
> I'd like to understand more on how significant a use case this is.
> Whilst I can conjecture that its an extreme case of wanting to avoid
> loosing the ability to create 1GiB or larger pages due to poison
> is that a real problem for anyone today? Note this is just the case
> where you've reached an actual uncorrectable error and probably
> / possibly killed something, not the more common soft offlining
> of memory due to correctable errors being detected.
I guess you really need a reply from someone with a data center
with thousands of machines, since that's where this question
may be important.
My humble opinion is that, outside of the huge page issue, nobody
should try to recover a poisoned page. Systems that can report
and recover from poison have tens, hundreds, or more GBytes
of memory. Dropping 4K pages will not have any measurable
impact on a system (even if there are hundreds of pages dropped).
There's no reliable way to determine whether the poisoned page
was due to some transient issue, or a permanent defect. Recovering
a poisoned page runs the risk that the poison will re-occur. Perhaps
next use of the page will be in some unrecoverable (kernel) context.
So recovery has some risk, but very little upside benefit.
-Tony
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-21 20:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20240618165310.877974-1-ruansy.fnst@fujitsu.com>
2024-06-20 17:02 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-06-21 10:16 ` Shiyang Ruan
2024-06-21 17:21 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-06-21 17:59 ` Dan Williams
2024-06-21 18:45 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-06-21 20:44 ` Luck, Tony [this message]
2024-06-26 6:03 ` Shiyang Ruan
2024-06-26 15:56 ` Luck, Tony
2024-07-19 6:24 ` Shiyang Ruan
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