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From: "Sridhar, Kanchana P" <kanchana.p.sridhar@intel.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v5 0/3] mm: ZSWAP swap-out of mTHP folios
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 00:20:41 +0000	[thread overview]
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 3:37 PM
> To: Sridhar, Kanchana P <kanchana.p.sridhar@intel.com>
> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux-mm@kvack.org;
> hannes@cmpxchg.org; nphamcs@gmail.com; ryan.roberts@arm.com;
> Huang, Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>; 21cnbao@gmail.com; akpm@linux-
> foundation.org; Zou, Nanhai <nanhai.zou@intel.com>; Feghali, Wajdi K
> <wajdi.k.feghali@intel.com>; Gopal, Vinodh <vinodh.gopal@intel.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/3] mm: ZSWAP swap-out of mTHP folios
> 
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 2:35 AM Kanchana P Sridhar
> <kanchana.p.sridhar@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > This patch-series enables zswap_store() to accept and store mTHP
> > folios. The most significant contribution in this series is from the
> > earlier RFC submitted by Ryan Roberts [1]. Ryan's original RFC has been
> > migrated to v6.11-rc3 in patch 2/4 of this series.
> >
> > [1]: [RFC PATCH v1] mm: zswap: Store large folios without splitting
> >      https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20231019110543.3284654-1-
> ryan.roberts@arm.com/T/#u
> >
> > Additionally, there is an attempt to modularize some of the functionality
> > in zswap_store(), to make it more amenable to supporting any-order
> > mTHPs. For instance, the function zswap_store_entry() stores a
> zswap_entry
> > in the xarray. Likewise, zswap_delete_stored_offsets() can be used to
> > delete all offsets corresponding to a higher order folio stored in zswap.
> >
> > For accounting purposes, the patch-series adds per-order mTHP sysfs
> > "zswpout" counters that get incremented upon successful zswap_store of
> > an mTHP folio:
> >
> > /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-*kB/stats/zswpout
> >
> > This patch-series is a precursor to ZSWAP compress batching of mTHP
> > swap-out and decompress batching of swap-ins based on
> swapin_readahead(),
> > using Intel IAA hardware acceleration, which we would like to submit in
> > subsequent RFC patch-series, with performance improvement data.
> >
> > Thanks to Ying Huang for pre-posting review feedback and suggestions!
> >
> > Changes since v4:
> > =================
> > 1) Published before/after data with zstd, as suggested by Nhat (Thanks
> >    Nhat for the data reviews!).
> > 2) Rebased to mm-unstable from 8/27/2024,
> >    commit b659edec079c90012cf8d05624e312d1062b8b87.
> > 3) Incorporated the change in memcontrol.h that defines obj_cgroup_get() if
> >    CONFIG_MEMCG is not defined, to resolve build errors reported by kernel
> >    robot; as per Nhat's and Michal's suggestion to not require a separate
> >    patch to fix the build errors (thanks both!).
> > 4) Deleted all same-filled folio processing in zswap_store() of mTHP, as
> >    suggested by Yosry (Thanks Yosry!).
> > 5) Squashed the commits that define new mthp zswpout stat counters, and
> >    invoke count_mthp_stat() after successful zswap_store()s; into a single
> >    commit. Thanks Yosry for this suggestion!
> >
> > Changes since v3:
> > =================
> > 1) Rebased to mm-unstable commit
> 8c0b4f7b65fd1ca7af01267f491e815a40d77444.
> >    Thanks to Barry for suggesting aligning with Ryan Roberts' latest
> >    changes to count_mthp_stat() so that it's always defined, even when THP
> >    is disabled. Barry, I have also made one other change in page_io.c
> >    where count_mthp_stat() is called by count_swpout_vm_event(). I would
> >    appreciate it if you can review this. Thanks!
> >    Hopefully this should resolve the kernel robot build errors.
> >
> > Changes since v2:
> > =================
> > 1) Gathered usemem data using SSD as the backing swap device for zswap,
> >    as suggested by Ying Huang. Ying, I would appreciate it if you can
> >    review the latest data. Thanks!
> > 2) Generated the base commit info in the patches to attempt to address
> >    the kernel test robot build errors.
> > 3) No code changes to the individual patches themselves.
> >
> > Changes since RFC v1:
> > =====================
> >
> > 1) Use sysfs for zswpout mTHP stats, as per Barry Song's suggestion.
> >    Thanks Barry!
> > 2) Addressed some of the code review comments that Nhat Pham provided
> in
> >    Ryan's initial RFC [1]:
> >    - Added a comment about the cgroup zswap limit checks occuring once
> per
> >      folio at the beginning of zswap_store().
> >      Nhat, Ryan, please do let me know if the comments convey the summary
> >      from the RFC discussion. Thanks!
> >    - Posted data on running the cgroup suite's zswap kselftest.
> > 3) Rebased to v6.11-rc3.
> > 4) Gathered performance data with usemem and the rebased patch-series.
> >
> > Performance Testing:
> > ====================
> > Testing of this patch-series was done with the v6.11-rc3 mainline, without
> > and with this patch-series, on an Intel Sapphire Rapids server,
> > dual-socket 56 cores per socket, 4 IAA devices per socket.
> >
> > The system has 503 GiB RAM, with 176GiB ZRAM (35% of available RAM) as
> the
> > backing swap device for ZSWAP. zstd is configured as the ZRAM compressor.
> > Core frequency was fixed at 2500MHz.
> >
> > The vm-scalability "usemem" test was run in a cgroup whose memory.high
> > was fixed at 40G. The is no swap limit set for the cgroup. Following a
> > similar methodology as in Ryan Roberts' "Swap-out mTHP without splitting"
> > series [2], 70 usemem processes were run, each allocating and writing 1G of
> > memory:
> >
> >     usemem --init-time -w -O -n 70 1g
> >
> > The vm/sysfs mTHP stats included with the performance data provide
> details
> > on the swapout activity to ZSWAP/swap.
> >
> > Other kernel configuration parameters:
> >
> >     ZSWAP Compressors : zstd, deflate-iaa
> >     ZSWAP Allocator   : zsmalloc
> >     SWAP page-cluster : 2
> >
> > In the experiments where "deflate-iaa" is used as the ZSWAP compressor,
> > IAA "compression verification" is enabled. Hence each IAA compression
> > will be decompressed internally by the "iaa_crypto" driver, the crc-s
> > returned by the hardware will be compared and errors reported in case of
> > mismatches. Thus "deflate-iaa" helps ensure better data integrity as
> > compared to the software compressors.
> >
> > Throughput is derived by averaging the individual 70 processes' throughputs
> > reported by usemem. sys time is measured with perf. All data points are
> > averaged across 3 runs.
> >
> >  64KB mTHP (cgroup memory.high set to 40G):
> >  ==========================================
> >
> >  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >                      v6.11-rc3 mainline              zswap-mTHP      Change wrt
> >                                Baseline                                Baseline
> >  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  ZSWAP compressor       zstd   deflate-        zstd    deflate-   zstd deflate-
> >                                     iaa                     iaa             iaa
> >  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  Throughput (KB/s)   161,496    156,343     140,363     151,938   -13%      -3%
> >  sys time (sec)       771.68     802.08      954.85      735.47   -24%       8%
> >  memcg_high          111,223    110,889     138,651     133,884
> >  memcg_swap_high           0          0           0           0
> >  memcg_swap_fail           0          0           0           0
> >  pswpin                   16         16           0           0
> >  pswpout           7,471,472  7,527,963           0           0
> >  zswpin                  635        605         624         639
> >  zswpout               1,509      1,478   9,453,761   9,385,910
> >  thp_swpout                0          0           0           0
> >  thp_swpout_               0          0           0           0
> >   fallback
> >  pgmajfault            3,616      3,430       4,633       3,611
> >  ZSWPOUT-64kB            n/a        n/a     590,768     586,521
> >  SWPOUT-64kB         466,967    470,498           0           0
> >  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >  2MB PMD-THP/2048K mTHP (cgroup memory.high set to 40G):
> >  =======================================================
> >
> >  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >                       v6.11-rc3 mainline              zswap-mTHP     Change wrt
> >                                 Baseline                               Baseline
> >  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  ZSWAP compressor       zstd    deflate-        zstd    deflate-  zstd deflate-
> >                                      iaa                     iaa            iaa
> >  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  Throughput (KB/s)    192,164    194,643     165,005     174,536  -14%     -10%
> >  sys time (sec)        823.55     830.42      801.72      676.65    3%      19%
> >  memcg_high            16,054     15,936      14,951      16,096
> >  memcg_swap_high            0          0           0           0
> >  memcg_swap_fail            0          0           0           0
> >  pswpin                     0          0           0           0
> >  pswpout            8,629,248  8,628,907           0           0
> >  zswpin                   560        645       5,333         781
> >  zswpout                1,416      1,503   8,546,895   9,355,760
> >  thp_swpout            16,854     16,853           0           0
> >  thp_swpout_                0          0           0           0
> >   fallback
> >  pgmajfault             3,341      3,574       8,139       3,582
> >  ZSWPOUT-2048kB           n/a        n/a      16,684      18,270
> >  SWPOUT-2048kB         16,854     16,853           0           0
> >  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > In the "Before" scenario, when zswap does not store mTHP, only allocations
> > count towards the cgroup memory limit. However, in the "After" scenario,
> > with the introduction of zswap_store() mTHP, both, allocations as well as
> > the zswap compressed pool usage from all 70 processes are counted
> towards
> > the memory limit. As a result, we see higher swapout activity in the
> > "After" data. Hence, more time is spent doing reclaim as the zswap cgroup
> > charge leads to more frequent memory.high breaches.
> >
> > This causes degradation in throughput and sys time with zswap mTHP, more
> so
> > in case of zstd than deflate-iaa. Compress latency could play a part in
> > this - when there is more swapout activity happening, a slower compressor
> > would cause allocations to stall for any/all of the 70 processes.
> >
> > In my opinion, even though the test set up does not provide an accurate
> > way for a direct before/after comparison (because of zswap usage being
> > counted in cgroup, hence towards the memory.high), it still seems
> > reasonable for zswap_store to support (m)THP, so that further performance
> > improvements can be implemented.
> 
> Are you saying that in the "Before" data we end up skipping zswap
> completely because of using mTHPs?

That's right, Yosry.

> 
> Does it make more sense to turn CONFIG_THP_SWAP in the "Before" data

We could do this, however I am not sure if turning off CONFIG_THP_SWAP
will have other side-effects in terms of disabling mm code paths outside of
zswap that are intended to be mTHP optimizations that could again skew
the before/after comparisons.

Will wait for Nhat's comments as well.

Thanks,
Kanchana

> to force the mTHPs to be split and for the data to be stored in zswap?
> This would be a more fair Before/After comparison where the memory
> goes to zswap in both cases, but "Before" has to be split because of
> zswap's lack of support for mTHP. I assume most setups relying on
> zswap will be turning CONFIG_THP_SWAP off today anyway, but maybe not.
> Nhat, is this something you can share?

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-29  0:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-28  9:35 Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-08-28  9:35 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] mm: Define obj_cgroup_get() if CONFIG_MEMCG is not defined Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-08-28  9:35 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] mm: zswap: zswap_store() extended to handle mTHP folios Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-08-28  9:35 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] mm: swap: Count successful mTHP ZSWAP stores in sysfs mTHP zswpout stats Kanchana P Sridhar
2024-08-28 15:55 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] mm: ZSWAP swap-out of mTHP folios Nhat Pham
2024-08-28 17:23   ` Nhat Pham
2024-08-28 19:30     ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2024-08-28 19:24   ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2024-08-28 21:35 ` Nhat Pham
2024-08-29  0:06   ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2024-08-29 17:10     ` Nhat Pham
2024-08-29 19:38       ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2024-08-30  4:52         ` Chengming Zhou
2024-09-20  2:34           ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2024-08-29  3:59   ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2024-08-28 22:37 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-08-29  0:20   ` Sridhar, Kanchana P [this message]
2024-08-29  1:01     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-08-29  3:10       ` Sridhar, Kanchana P
2024-08-29 23:33   ` Nhat Pham
2024-08-29 23:38     ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-08-29 23:47       ` Nhat Pham
2024-08-29 23:55         ` Yosry Ahmed

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