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From: Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] ksm: let shared pages be swappable
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:38:33 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0911301227530.24660@sister.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091130180452.5BF6.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > After this patch, the number of shared swappable page will be unlimited.
> 
> Probably, it doesn't matter. I mean
> 
>   - KSM sharing and Shmem sharing are almost same performance characteristics.
>   - if memroy pressure is low, SplitLRU VM doesn't scan anon list so much.
> 
> if ksm swap is too costly, we need to improve anon list scanning generically.

Yes, we're in agreement that this issue is not new with KSM swapping.

> btw, I'm not sure why bellow kmem_cache_zalloc() is necessary. Why can't we
> use stack?

Well, I didn't use stack: partly because I'm so ashamed of the pseudo-vmas
on the stack in mm/shmem.c, which have put shmem_getpage() into reports
of high stack users (I've unfinished patches to deal with that); and
partly because page_referenced_ksm() and try_to_unmap_ksm() are on
the page reclaim path, maybe way down deep on a very deep stack.

But it's not something you or I should be worrying about: as the comment
says, this is just a temporary hack, to present a patch which gets KSM
swapping working in an understandable way, while leaving some corrections
and refinements to subsequent patches.  This pseudo-vma is removed in the
very next patch.

Hugh

> 
> ----------------------------
> +	/*
> +	 * Temporary hack: really we need anon_vma in rmap_item, to
> +	 * provide the correct vma, and to find recently forked instances.
> +	 * Use zalloc to avoid weirdness if any other fields are involved.
> +	 */
> +	vma = kmem_cache_zalloc(vm_area_cachep, GFP_ATOMIC);
> +	if (!vma) {
> +		spin_lock(&ksm_fallback_vma_lock);
> +		vma = &ksm_fallback_vma;
> +	}

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-30 12:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-24 16:37 [PATCH 0/9] ksm: swapping Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:40 ` [PATCH 1/9] ksm: fix mlockfreed to munlocked Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 23:53   ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-26 16:20   ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-27 12:45     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-30  6:01       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-30 12:26         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-30 21:27           ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-12-01 11:14       ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-24 16:42 ` [PATCH 2/9] ksm: let shared pages be swappable Hugh Dickins
2009-11-30  0:46   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-30  9:15     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-30 12:38       ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2009-12-01  4:14         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-30 11:55     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-30 12:07     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-01  0:39       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-01  6:32         ` Chris Wright
2009-12-01  9:11         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-01  9:28           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-01  9:37             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-01  9:46               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-01  9:59                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-02  5:08                   ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-02 12:55                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-03  5:15                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-04  5:06                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-04  5:16                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-04 14:49                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-04 17:16                             ` Chris Wright
2009-12-04 18:53                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-04 19:03                                 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-09  0:43                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-09  1:04                                 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-09 16:12                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-09 23:54                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-04 14:45                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-04 16:21                             ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-24 16:43 ` [PATCH 3/9] ksm: hold anon_vma in rmap_item Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:45 ` [PATCH 4/9] ksm: take keyhole reference to page Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:48 ` [PATCH 5/9] ksm: share anon page without allocating Hugh Dickins
2009-11-30  0:04   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-30 11:18     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-12-01  0:02       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-24 16:51 ` [PATCH 6/9] ksm: mem cgroup charge swapin copy Hugh Dickins
2009-11-25 14:23   ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-25 17:12     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-25 17:36       ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-30  0:13   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-30 11:40     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:54 ` [PATCH 7/9] ksm: rmap_walk to remove_migation_ptes Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:56 ` [PATCH 8/9] ksm: memory hotremove migration only Hugh Dickins
2009-11-24 16:57 ` [PATCH 9/9] ksm: remove unswappable max_kernel_pages Hugh Dickins

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