From: Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: ieidus@redhat.com, aarcange@redhat.com, riel@redhat.com,
chrisw@redhat.com, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/12] ksm: pages_unshared and pages_volatile
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:39:06 +0100 (BST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0908051216020.13195@sister.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090804144920.bfc6a44f.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:11:53 +0100 (BST)
> Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > pages_volatile is harder to define. It includes those pages changing
> > too fast to get into the unstable tree, but also whatever other edge
> > conditions prevent a page getting into the trees: a high value may
> > deserve investigation. Don't try to calculate it from the various
> > conditions: it's the total of rmap_items less those accounted for.
...
> > static inline struct rmap_item *alloc_rmap_item(void)
> > {
> > - return kmem_cache_zalloc(rmap_item_cache, GFP_KERNEL);
> > + struct rmap_item *rmap_item;
> > +
> > + rmap_item = kmem_cache_zalloc(rmap_item_cache, GFP_KERNEL);
> > + if (rmap_item)
> > + ksm_rmap_items++;
> > + return rmap_item;
> > }
>
> ksm_rmap_items was already available via /proc/slabinfo. I guess that
> wasn't a particularly nice user interface ;)
procfs is not a nice interface for sysfs to be reading
when it's asked to show pages_volatile!
And not even always available, I think: SLOB wouldn't be able to report
the number of objects of any particular type, SLUB would need slub_nomerge
(or a debug flag) to keep the kmem_cache separate; and even SLAB would
have to assemble numbers from different cpus and queues, I guess.
Easier and more reliable for KSM to do its own thing here.
I do agree that slabinfo or slqbinfo or /proc/slabinfo is a good enough
interface for checking up on the number of rmap_items in use; it's what
I was using most of the time. I did once fleetingly wonder whether to
show the count of rmap_items under /sys/kernel/mm/ksm, but rejected it
as not interesting enough to deserve more than what slabinfo tells.
But here the rmap_item count is being used to deduce something more
interesting (though more obscure), and I don't want SL?B divergences
to perturb the resulting number more than it is already. I did start
out without the rmap_items count, incrementing and decrementing
pages_volatile all over the place; but soon abandoned that in
favour of the difference calculation.
But I think I'm taking you more seriously than you intended,
sorry for my humourlessness!
Hugh
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-05 11:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-03 12:08 [PATCH 0/12] ksm: stats, oom, doc, misc Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:10 ` [PATCH 1/12] ksm: rename kernel_pages_allocated Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 14:21 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 16:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-03 12:11 ` [PATCH 2/12] ksm: move pages_sharing updates Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 14:34 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 16:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-03 17:34 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:11 ` [PATCH 3/12] ksm: pages_unshared and pages_volatile Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 14:54 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-04 21:49 ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-05 11:39 ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2009-08-05 15:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-03 12:12 ` [PATCH 4/12] ksm: break cow once unshared Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 16:00 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:14 ` [PATCH 5/12] ksm: keep quiet while list empty Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 16:55 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-04 21:59 ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-05 11:54 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:15 ` [PATCH 6/12] ksm: five little cleanups Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 12:41 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:16 ` [PATCH 7/12] ksm: fix endless loop on oom Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 12:55 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:17 ` [PATCH 8/12] ksm: distribute remove_mm_from_lists Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 13:03 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:18 ` [PATCH 9/12] ksm: fix oom deadlock Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 19:32 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-25 14:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-25 15:22 ` [PATCH 13/12] ksm: fix munlock during exit_mmap deadlock Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-25 17:49 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-25 18:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-25 18:58 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-25 19:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-26 16:18 ` Justin M. Forbes
2009-08-26 19:17 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-26 19:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-26 19:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-26 20:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-26 20:54 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-26 21:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-26 21:49 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-27 19:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-27 19:35 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-26 22:00 ` David Rientjes
2009-08-26 20:29 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-25 17:35 ` [PATCH 9/12] ksm: fix oom deadlock Hugh Dickins
2009-08-25 17:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-03 12:19 ` [PATCH 10/12] ksm: sysfs and defaults Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 19:34 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:21 ` [PATCH 11/12] ksm: add some documentation Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 19:35 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:22 ` [PATCH 12/12] ksm: remove VM_MERGEABLE_FLAGS Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 19:35 ` Izik Eidus
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