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From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	chrisw@redhat.com, device@lanana.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] ksm: dont allow overlap memory addresses registrations.
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:46:31 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905061532240.25289@blonde.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090506152100.41266e4c@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On Wed, 6 May 2009, Alan Cox wrote:
> > the max number of ksm pages that can be allocated at any given time so
> > to avoid OOM conditions, like the swap-compress logic that limits the
> > swapdevice size to less than ram.

(I don't know anything about that swap-compress logic and limitation.)

> 
> Are those pages accounted for in the vm_overcommit logic, as if you
> allocate a big chunk of memory as KSM will do you need the worst case
> vm_overcommit behaviour preserved and that means keeping the stats
> correct.

As I understand it, KSM won't affect the vm_overcommit behaviour at all.
Those pages Izik refers to are not allocated up front, they're just a
limit on the number of process pages which may get held in core at any
one time, through being shared via the KSM mechanism.

KSM is not evading vm_committed_space at all, not opening a backdoor
away from the ordinary mmaps: just collapsing duplicated pages in
what's been mapped in the usual way, down to single copies.

So the vm_commited_space accounting is exactly as before: it would
be a bit odd to be running KSM along with OVERCOMMIT_NEVER, but it
doesn't change its calculations at all - it will and will have to
be as pessimistic as it ever was.

The only difference would be in how much memory (mostly lowmem)
KSM's own data structures will take up - as usual, the kernel
data structures aren't being accounted, but do take up memory.

Hugh

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-06 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-04 22:25 [PATCH 0/6] ksm changes (v2) Izik Eidus
2009-05-04 22:25 ` [PATCH 1/6] ksm: limiting the num of mem regions user can register per fd Izik Eidus
2009-05-04 22:25   ` [PATCH 2/6] ksm: dont allow overlap memory addresses registrations Izik Eidus
2009-05-04 22:25     ` [PATCH 3/6] ksm: change the KSM_REMOVE_MEMORY_REGION ioctl Izik Eidus
2009-05-04 22:25       ` [PATCH 4/6] ksm: change the prot handling to use the generic helper functions Izik Eidus
2009-05-04 22:25         ` [PATCH 5/6] ksm: build system make it compile for all archs Izik Eidus
2009-05-04 22:25           ` [PATCH 6/6] ksm: use another miscdevice minor number Izik Eidus
2009-05-06  0:55             ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-06  0:54           ` [PATCH 5/6] ksm: build system make it compile for all archs Rik van Riel
2009-05-06  0:54         ` [PATCH 4/6] ksm: change the prot handling to use the generic helper functions Rik van Riel
2009-05-06  0:53       ` [PATCH 3/6] ksm: change the KSM_REMOVE_MEMORY_REGION ioctl Rik van Riel
2009-05-06  8:38         ` Izik Eidus
2009-05-06 11:16           ` Hugh Dickins
2009-05-06 13:34             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-05-06 13:56               ` Izik Eidus
2009-05-06 16:41                 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-05-06 16:49                   ` Chris Wright
2009-05-06 16:57                     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-05-06 17:47                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-05-06 16:59                     ` Izik Eidus
2009-05-07 11:31                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-05-07 13:13                       ` Hugh Dickins
2009-05-07 13:23                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-05-06 14:25               ` Hugh Dickins
2009-05-06 14:45                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-05-06 15:36                   ` Chris Wright
2009-05-06 15:27             ` Izik Eidus
2009-05-06 16:14               ` Chris Wright
2009-05-06 16:36                 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-05-06 17:09                   ` Chris Wright
2009-05-06 17:54                     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-05-06 16:26               ` Hugh Dickins
2009-05-06 16:58                 ` Izik Eidus
2009-05-06 23:59                   ` Chris Wright
2009-05-07  2:41                     ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-06  0:43     ` [PATCH 2/6] ksm: dont allow overlap memory addresses registrations Rik van Riel
2009-05-06  9:46       ` Izik Eidus
2009-05-06 12:26         ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-06 12:39           ` Izik Eidus
2009-05-06 13:17           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-05-06 13:28             ` Hugh Dickins
2009-05-06 14:02               ` Izik Eidus
2009-05-06 17:11                 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-05-06 14:09               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-05-06 14:21                 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-06 14:46                   ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2009-05-06 14:56                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-05-06 23:55                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-05-07  0:19                         ` Chris Wright
2009-05-07 10:46                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-05-07 12:01                           ` Minchan Kim
2009-05-06 14:57                     ` Izik Eidus
2009-05-06  0:40   ` [PATCH 1/6] ksm: limiting the num of mem regions user can register per fd Rik van Riel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-05-02 22:16 [PATCH 0/6] ksm changes Izik Eidus
2009-05-02 22:16 ` [PATCH 1/6] ksm: limiting the num of mem regions user can register per fd Izik Eidus
2009-05-02 22:16   ` [PATCH 2/6] ksm: dont allow overlap memory addresses registrations Izik Eidus

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