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From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] mm: fix anon_vma races
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:39:25 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810191256580.23569@blonde.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1224413500.10548.55.camel@lappy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> I think my main concern in all this is validating that we have the right
> anon_vma on dereference - both the vma->anon_vma and the page->mapping
> one.
> 
> Part of the confusion is that we don't clear those pointers at the end
> of their lifetimes (page_remove_rmap and anon_vma_unlink).

Yes, I would very much have liked to clear it in page_remove_rmap(),
as I say there: it's still feels ugly to be cleaning up after it in
free_hot_cold_page() (gosh! and that's still the name of where it
happens!), though there are some good debug advantages to having it
set indefinitely too.

Clearing vma->anon_vma at the end, I don't think I ever cared about
that: it's very common to kfree() something without resetting the
pointers to it, I don't think there's any worrying race in its case.

> 
> I guess the !page_mapping() test in page_lock_anon_vma() is meant to
              !page_mapped()
> deal with this, I think the point is that we have a stable page
> reference, and thus the mapping is stable too (although
> page_referenced() only holds a ref, and that could race with a fault
> which would install the anon_vma? - still that looks a race the safe
> way)

page_lock_anon_vma() is like those scenes where sailors are pulleyed
down a rope from one ship to another in stormy mid-ocean.  There,
now you understand it, need I say more?

If we see page_mapcount is raised (in the RCU locked section), we
can be sure that the slab page which the struct anon_vma rests on
will not get freed and reused for something else: page_mapcount
may go down to 0 at any instant, but having been non-0, we are
assured that anon_vma->lock will remain the spinlock in a struct
anon_vma, even if by the time we've acquired that spinlock, that
particular piece of memory has been freed and reused for the
anon_vma of another group of vmas altogether.

Certainly mapcount could also go up and another vma be added to
the anon_vma's list while we wait to get the spinlock, as you say,
but that's no worry.

> 
> Still it looks odd to have a rcu_read_lock() section without and
> rcu_dereference() or smp_read_depend barrier.

At the 2.6.8 time I wrote it, I was using preempt_disable() and
preempt_enable(), and there was no such thing as rcu_dereference().
But I don't think it's now lacking in that respect: the whole idea
was to keep almost all of the code free of RCU worries, just
concentrate them all into page_lock_anon_vma() (and slab.c).

> 
> I think I see how the vma->anon_vma references work too, given the added
> locking in anon_vma_prepare() proposed in this thread. But I need to
> ponder those a bit more.
> 
> And alas, I need to run out again.. these weekends are too short.

I know the feeling: I also seem to have promised many too many
people that I'll be attending to this or that at the weekend.

Hugh

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-19 12:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-16  4:10 Nick Piggin
2008-10-17 22:14 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-10-17 23:05   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18  0:13     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-10-18  0:25       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18  1:53       ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-18  2:50         ` Paul Mackerras
2008-10-18  2:57           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18  5:49           ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-18 10:49             ` Paul Mackerras
2008-10-18 17:00             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18 18:44               ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-19  2:54                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-19  2:53               ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-17 23:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-17 23:53   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18  0:42     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18  1:08       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18  1:32         ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-18  2:11           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18  2:25             ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-18  2:35               ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-18  2:53               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-18  5:20                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-18 10:38                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-19  9:52                     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-10-19 10:51                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-19 12:39                         ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2008-10-19 18:25                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-19 18:45                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-19 19:00                           ` Hugh Dickins
2008-10-20  4:03                           ` Hugh Dickins
2008-10-20 15:17                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-20 18:21                               ` Hugh Dickins
2008-10-21  2:56                               ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-21  3:25                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-21  4:33                                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-21 12:58                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-10-21 15:59                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-10-22  9:29                                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-21  4:34                                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-21 13:55                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-10-21  2:44                           ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-18 19:14               ` Hugh Dickins
2008-10-19  3:03                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-19  7:07                   ` Hugh Dickins
2008-10-20  3:26                     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-10-21  2:45                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-19  1:13       ` Hugh Dickins
2008-10-19  2:41         ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-19  9:45           ` Hugh Dickins
2008-10-21  3:59             ` Nick Piggin

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