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From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Can get_user_pages( ,write=1, force=1, ) result in a read-only pte and _count=2?
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:09:15 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806191154270.7324@blonde.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200806191307.04499.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Thursday 19 June 2008 05:01, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 Jun 2008, Nick Piggin wrote:
> 
> > > But although that feels a bit unclean, I don't think it would cause
> > > a problem because the previous VM_FAULT_WRITE (while under mmap_sem)
> > > ensures our swap page should still be valid to write into via get
> > > user pages (and a subsequent write access should cause do_wp_page to
> > > go through the proper reuse logic and now COW).
> >
> > I think perhaps Robin is wanting to write into the page both from the
> > kernel (hence the get_user_pages) and from userspace: but finding that
> > the attempt to write from userspace breaks COW again (because gup
> > raised the page count and it's a readonly pte), so they end up
> > writing into different pages.  We know that COW didn't need to
> > be broken a second time, but do_wp_page doesn't know that.
> 
> I'm having trouble seeing the path that leads to this situation. I
> can't see what the significance of the elevated page count is?

The trouble is, you're looking at what can_share_swap_page actually
does, instead of letting your mind regress a few years to what it
used to do before we had page_mapcount ;)

Yes, sorry, my page count "explanation" is nonsense.

> 
> We're talking about swap pages, as in do_swap_page? Then AFAIKS it
> is only the mapcount that is taken into account, and get_user_pages
> will first break COW, but that should set mapcount back to 1, in
> which case the userspace access should notice that in do_swap_page
> and prevent the 2nd COW from happening.

(I assume Robin is not forking, we do know that causes this kind
of problem, but he didn't mention any forking so I assume not.)

> 
> Unless, hmm no it can also be called directly via handle_pte_fault,
> and if it happens to fail the trylock_page, I think I do see how it
> can be COWed. But it doesn't seem to have anything to do with page
> count so I don't know if I'm on the right track or maybe missing the
> obvious...

The !TestSetPageLocked (there, now I'm looking at the source!).
Yes, I suppose if it goes the wrong way on that, it would account
for it; though it'd be nice to have some confirmation that's what's
happening.

Over to your next mail...

Hugh

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-19 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-18 16:41 Robin Holt
2008-06-18 17:29 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-18 19:01   ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-18 20:33     ` Robin Holt
2008-06-18 21:46       ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-19  3:31         ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-19  3:34           ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-19 11:39           ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-19 12:07             ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-19 12:21               ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-19 17:48                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-19 12:34               ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-19 12:53                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-19 13:25                   ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-19 13:35                     ` Robin Holt
2008-06-19 16:32         ` Robin Holt
2008-06-20  9:23           ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-19  3:07     ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-19 11:09       ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2008-06-19 13:38         ` Robin Holt
2008-06-19 13:49           ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-23 15:54             ` Robin Holt
2008-06-23 16:48               ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-23 17:52                 ` Robin Holt
2008-06-23 20:58                   ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-24 11:56                     ` Robin Holt
2008-06-24 15:19                     ` Robin Holt
2008-06-24 20:19                       ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-23 19:11             ` Robin Holt
2008-06-23 19:12               ` Robin Holt

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