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From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, dkegel@google.com,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/9] Use NOMEMALLOC reclaim to allow reclaim if PF_MEMALLOC is set
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:27:30 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0708201323590.30053@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1187641056.5337.32.camel@lappy>

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> > Plus the same issue can happen today. Writes are usually not completed 
> > during reclaim. If the writes are sufficiently deferred then you have the 
> > same issue now.
> 
> Once we have initiated (disk) writeout we do not need more memory to
> complete it, all we need to do is wait for the completion interrupt.

We cannot reclaim the page as long as the I/O is not complete. If you 
have too many anonymous pages and the rest of memory is dirty then you can 
get into OOM scenarios even without this patch.

> Networking is different here in that an unbounded amount of net traffic
> needs to be processed in order to find the completion event.

Its not that different. Pages are pinned during writeout from reclaim and 
it is not clear when the write will complete. There are no bounds that I 
know in reclaim for the writeback of dirty anonymous pages.

But some throttling function like for dirty pages is likely needed for 
network traffic.


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-20 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-14 15:30 [RFC 0/9] Reclaim during GFP_ATOMIC allocs Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 15:30 ` [RFC 1/9] Allow reclaim via __GFP_NOMEMALLOC reclaim Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 15:30 ` [RFC 2/9] Use NOMEMALLOC reclaim to allow reclaim if PF_MEMALLOC is set Christoph Lameter
2007-08-18  7:10   ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-20 19:00     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 20:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-20 20:27         ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2007-08-20 21:14           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-20 21:17             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-21 14:07               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-21  0:39             ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-21 14:07               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-23  3:38                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-23  9:26                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-23 10:11                     ` Nikita Danilov
2007-08-23 13:58                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-24  4:00                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-14 15:30 ` [RFC 3/9] Make cond_rescheds conditional on __GFP_WAIT Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 15:30 ` [RFC 4/9] Atomic reclaim: Save irq flags in vmscan.c Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 20:02   ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-14 19:12     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 20:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-14 20:34         ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-14 20:33       ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-14 20:42         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 20:44           ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-14 21:15             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 21:23               ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-14 21:26                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 21:29                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-14 21:37                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 21:44                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-14 21:48                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 21:56                           ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-14 22:07                             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 22:16                               ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-14 22:20                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 22:21                                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-14 22:41                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 15:30 ` [RFC 5/9] Save irqflags on taking the mapping lock Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 15:30 ` [RFC 6/9] Disable irqs on taking the private_lock Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 15:30 ` [RFC 7/9] Save flags in swap.c Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 15:30 ` [RFC 8/9] Reclaim on an atomic allocation if necessary Christoph Lameter
2007-08-14 15:30 ` [RFC 9/9] Testing: Perform GFP_ATOMIC overallocation Christoph Lameter
2007-08-16  2:49 ` [RFC 0/9] Reclaim during GFP_ATOMIC allocs Nick Piggin
2007-08-16 20:24   ` Christoph Lameter

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