From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: Daniel Phillips <daniel.raymond.phillips@gmail.com>
Cc: Daniel Phillips <phillips@phunq.net>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Daniel Phillips <phillips@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/10] mm: system wide ALLOC_NO_WATERMARK
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:48:50 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0708091844450.3185@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a5909270708091717n2f93fcb5i284d82edfd235145@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> You can fix reclaim as much as you want and the basic deadlock will
> still not go away. When you finally do get to writing something out,
> memory consumers in the writeout path are going to cause problems,
> which this patch set fixes.
We currently also do *not* write out immediately. I/O is queued when
submitted so it does *not* reduce memory. It is better to actually delay
writeout until you have thrown out clean pages. At that point the free
memory is at its high point. If memory goes below the high point again by
these writes then we can again reclaim until things are right.
> Agreed that the idea of mempool always sounded strange, and we show
> how to get rid of them, but that is not the immediate purpose of this
> patch set.
Ok mempools are unrelated. The allocations problems that this patch
addresses can be fixed by making reclaim more intelligent. This may likely
make mempools less of an issue in the kernel. If we can reclaim in an
emergency even in ATOMIC contexts then things get much easier.
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Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-06 10:29 [PATCH 00/10] foundations for reserve-based allocation Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm: gfp_to_alloc_flags() Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: system wide ALLOC_NO_WATERMARK Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 18:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 18:21 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 18:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 18:43 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 19:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 19:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 20:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 18:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 18:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 18:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 19:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 20:12 ` Matt Mackall
2007-08-06 20:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 20:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 21:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 22:59 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 23:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 23:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-07 22:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-08 7:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-08 18:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-08 7:37 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-08 18:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-09 18:41 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-09 18:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-10 0:17 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-10 1:48 ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2007-08-10 3:34 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-10 3:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-10 8:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-10 17:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-10 23:25 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-13 6:55 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-13 23:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 20:27 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-06 23:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 22:47 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm: tag reseve pages Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 18:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 18:13 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 18:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 19:34 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 18:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 18:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 18:59 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 19:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 19:10 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-06 19:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 19:38 ` Matt Mackall
2007-08-06 20:18 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm: slub: add knowledge of reserve pages Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-08 0:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-08 1:44 ` Matt Mackall
2007-08-08 17:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-08 17:39 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-08 17:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-08 18:46 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-10 1:54 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-10 2:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 7:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-20 7:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-20 9:12 ` Pekka J Enberg
2007-08-20 9:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-20 9:28 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-08-20 19:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-20 20:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm: allow mempool to fall back to memalloc reserves Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm: kmem_estimate_pages() Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: allow PF_MEMALLOC from softirq context Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: serialize access to min_free_kbytes Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm: emergency pool Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 10:29 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm: __GFP_MEMALLOC Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 17:35 ` [PATCH 00/10] foundations for reserve-based allocation Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 18:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 18:40 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 19:31 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 19:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 19:53 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-08-06 17:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-06 18:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 20:23 ` Matt Mackall
2007-08-07 0:09 ` Daniel Phillips
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