From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Gleb Natapov <glebn@voltaire.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Document Linux Memory Policy
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 12:48:49 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706011242250.3598@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1180726713.5278.80.camel@localhost>
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Lee Schermerhorn wrote:
> > Same here and I wish we had a clean memory region based implementation.
> > But that is just what your patches do *not* provide. Instead they are file
> > based. They should be memory region based.
> >
> > Would you please come up with such a solution?
>
> Christoph:
>
> I don't understand what you mean by "memory region based".
Memory policies are controlling allocations for regions of memory of a
process. They are not file based policies (they may have been on Tru64).
> So, for a shared memory mapped file, the inode+address_space--i.e., the
> in-memory incarnation of the file--is as close to a "memory region" as
Not at all. Consider a mmapped memory region by a database. The database
is running on nodes 5-8 and has specified an interleave policy for the
data.
Now another process starts on node 1 and it also mapped to mmap the same
file used by the database. It specifies allocation on node 1 and then
terminates.
Now the database will attempt to satisfy its big memory needs from node 1?
This scheme is not working.
> You're usually gung-ho about locality on a NUMA platform, avoiding off
> node access or page allocations, respecting the fast path, ... Why the
> resistance here?
Yes I want consistent memory policies. There are already consistency
issues that need to be solved. Forcing in a Tru64 concept of file memory
allocation policies will just make the situation worse.
And shmem is not really something that should be taken as a general rule.
Shmem allocations can be controlled via a kernel boot option. They exist
even after a process terminates. etc etc.
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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-29 19:33 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-29 20:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-29 20:16 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-30 16:17 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-30 17:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-31 8:20 ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-05-31 14:49 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-31 15:56 ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-06-01 21:15 ` [PATCH] enhance memory policy sys call man pages v1 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-23 6:11 ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-07-23 6:32 ` mbind.2 man page patch Michael Kerrisk
2007-07-23 14:26 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-26 17:19 ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-07-26 18:06 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-07-26 18:18 ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-07-23 6:32 ` get_mempolicy.2 " Michael Kerrisk
2007-07-28 9:31 ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-09 18:43 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-09 20:57 ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-16 20:05 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-18 5:50 ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-21 15:45 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-22 4:10 ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-22 16:08 ` [PATCH] Mempolicy Man Pages 2.64 1/3 - mbind.2 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-27 11:29 ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-22 16:10 ` [PATCH] Mempolicy Man Pages 2.64 2/3 - set_mempolicy.2 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-27 11:30 ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-22 16:12 ` [PATCH] Mempolicy Man Pages 2.64 3/3 - get_mempolicy.2 Lee Schermerhorn
2007-08-27 11:30 ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-08-27 10:46 ` get_mempolicy.2 man page patch Michael Kerrisk
2007-07-23 6:33 ` set_mempolicy.2 " Michael Kerrisk
2007-05-30 16:55 ` [PATCH] Document Linux Memory Policy Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-30 17:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-31 6:18 ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 6:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-31 6:47 ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 6:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-31 7:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 7:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-31 7:39 ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 17:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-31 17:07 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-31 10:43 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-31 11:04 ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 11:30 ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 15:26 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-31 17:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 18:56 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-31 20:06 ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 20:43 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 9:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2007-06-01 10:21 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 12:25 ` Gleb Natapov
2007-06-01 13:09 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 17:15 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-01 18:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-01 19:38 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-01 19:48 ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2007-06-01 21:05 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-01 21:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-04 13:46 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-04 16:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-04 17:02 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-04 17:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-04 20:23 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-04 21:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-05 14:30 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-01 20:28 ` Gleb Natapov
2007-06-01 20:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-01 21:10 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-06-01 21:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-02 7:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 11:47 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-31 11:59 ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 12:15 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-31 12:18 ` Gleb Natapov
2007-05-31 18:28 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-31 18:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-31 19:29 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-31 19:25 ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-31 20:22 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-05-29 20:07 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-30 16:04 ` Lee Schermerhorn
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