From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 05:16:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert P. J. Day" Subject: Re: pcmcia ioctl removal In-Reply-To: <20070501084623.GB14364@infradead.org> Message-ID: References: <20070430162007.ad46e153.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20070501084623.GB14364@infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Return-Path: To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org List-ID: On Tue, 1 May 2007, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > pcmcia-delete-obsolete-pcmcia_ioctl-feature.patch > > ... > > > Dominik is busy. Will probably re-review and send these direct to Linus. > > The patch above is the removal of cardmgr support. While I'd love > to see this cruft gone it definitively needs maintainer judgement on > whether they time has come that no one relies on cardmgr anymore. since i was the one who submitted the original patch to remove that stuff, let me make an observation. when i submitted a patch to remove, for instance, the traffic shaper since it's clearly obsolete, i was told -- in no uncertain terms -- that that couldn't be done since there had been no warning about its impending removal. fair enough, i can accept that. on the other hand, the features removal file contains the following: ... What: PCMCIA control ioctl (needed for pcmcia-cs [cardmgr, cardctl]) When: November 2005 ... in other words, the PCMCIA ioctl feature *has* been listed as obsolete for quite some time, and is already a *year and a half* overdue for removal. in short, it's annoying to take the position that stuff can't be deleted without warning, then turn around and be reluctant to remove stuff for which *more than ample warning* has already been given. doing that just makes a joke of the features removal file, and makes you wonder what its purpose is in the first place. a little consistency would be nice here, don't you think? rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://fsdev.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page ======================================================================== -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org