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From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	tee@sgi.com, holt@sgi.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [rfc] no ZERO_PAGE?
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 17:10:37 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0704041700380.27262@blonde.wat.veritas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070404154839.GI19587@v2.random>

On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 08:35:30AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > Anyway, I'm not against this, but I can see somebody actually *wanting* 
> > the ZERO page in some cases. I've used the fact for TLB testing, for 
> > example, by just doing a big malloc(), and knowing that the kernel will 
> > re-use the ZERO_PAGE so that I don't get any cache effects (well, at least 
> > not any *physical* cache effects. Virtually indexed cached will still show 
> > effects of it, of course, but I haven't cared).
> 
> Ok, those cases wanting the same zero page, could be fairly easily
> converted to an mmap over /dev/zero

No, MAP_SHARED mmap of /dev/zero uses shmem, which allocates distinct
pages for this (because in general tmpfs doesn't know if a readonly
file will be written to later on), and MAP_PRIVATE mmap of /dev/zero
uses the zeromap stuff which we were hoping to eliminate too
(though not in Nick's initial patch).

Looks like a job for /dev/same_page_over_and_over_again.

> (without having to run 4k large mmap syscalls or nonlinear).

You scared me, I made no sense of that at first: ah yes,
repeatedly mmap'ing the same page can be done those ways.

Hugh

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-04 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-29  7:58 [rfc][patch 1/2] mm: dont account ZERO_PAGE Nick Piggin
2007-03-29  7:58 ` [rfc][patch 2/2] mips: reinstate move_pte Nick Piggin
2007-03-29 17:49   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-29 13:10 ` [rfc][patch 1/2] mm: dont account ZERO_PAGE Hugh Dickins
2007-03-30  1:46   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-30  2:59     ` Robin Holt
2007-03-30  3:09       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-30  9:23         ` Robin Holt
2007-03-30  2:40   ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04  3:37     ` [rfc] no ZERO_PAGE? Nick Piggin
2007-04-04  9:45       ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 10:24         ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 12:27           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 13:55             ` Dan Aloni
2007-04-04 14:14               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 14:44                 ` Dan Aloni
2007-04-04 15:03                   ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 15:34                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 15:41                       ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 16:07                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 16:14                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-04 15:27                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 16:15                     ` Dan Aloni
2007-04-04 16:48                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 12:45           ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 13:05             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 13:32               ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 13:40                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 15:35       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-04 15:48         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 16:09           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-04 16:23             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 16:10           ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2007-04-04 16:31             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 22:07           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-04 16:32         ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-04 17:02           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-04 19:15         ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-04 20:11         ` David Miller, Linus Torvalds
2007-04-04 20:50           ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-05  2:03           ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-05  5:23           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 22:05         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-05  0:27           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-05  1:25             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-05  2:30             ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-05  5:37               ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-05 17:23                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-05  4:47         ` Nick Piggin

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