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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	tee@sgi.com, holt@sgi.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [rfc] no ZERO_PAGE?
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:09:28 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0704040906340.6730@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070404154839.GI19587@v2.random>


On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> 
> Ok, those cases wanting the same zero page, could be fairly easily
> converted to an mmap over /dev/zero (without having to run 4k large
> mmap syscalls or nonlinear).

You're missing the point. What if it's something like oracle that has been 
tuned for Linux using this? Or even an open-source app that is just used 
by big places and they see performace problems but it's not obvious *why*.

We "know" why, because we're discussing this point. But two months from 
now, when some random company complains to SuSE/RH/whatever that their app 
runs 5% slower or uses 200% more swap, who is going to realize what caused 
it?

THAT is the problem with patches like this. I'm not against it, but you 
can't just dismiss it with "we can fix the app". We *cannot* fix the app 
if we don't even realize what caused the problem..

		Linus

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-04 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-29  7:58 [rfc][patch 1/2] mm: dont account ZERO_PAGE Nick Piggin
2007-03-29  7:58 ` [rfc][patch 2/2] mips: reinstate move_pte Nick Piggin
2007-03-29 17:49   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-29 13:10 ` [rfc][patch 1/2] mm: dont account ZERO_PAGE Hugh Dickins
2007-03-30  1:46   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-30  2:59     ` Robin Holt
2007-03-30  3:09       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-30  9:23         ` Robin Holt
2007-03-30  2:40   ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04  3:37     ` [rfc] no ZERO_PAGE? Nick Piggin
2007-04-04  9:45       ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 10:24         ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-04 12:27           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 13:55             ` Dan Aloni
2007-04-04 14:14               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 14:44                 ` Dan Aloni
2007-04-04 15:03                   ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 15:34                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 15:41                       ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 16:07                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 16:14                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-04 15:27                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 16:15                     ` Dan Aloni
2007-04-04 16:48                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 12:45           ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 13:05             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 13:32               ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 13:40                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 15:35       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-04 15:48         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 16:09           ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-04-04 16:23             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 16:10           ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-04 16:31             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 22:07           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-04 16:32         ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-04 17:02           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-04 19:15         ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-04 20:11         ` David Miller, Linus Torvalds
2007-04-04 20:50           ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-05  2:03           ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-05  5:23           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-04-04 22:05         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-05  0:27           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-05  1:25             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-05  2:30             ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-05  5:37               ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-05 17:23                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-05  4:47         ` Nick Piggin

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