From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: Dave Hansen <hansendc@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
Martin Bligh <mbligh@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] x86_64: Switch to SPARSE_VIRTUAL
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 14:28:30 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0704021422040.2272@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1175548086.22373.99.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 13:30 -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > > I completely agree, it looks like it should be faster. The code
> > > certainly has potential benefits. But, to add this neato, apparently
> > > more performant feature, we unfortunately have to add code. Adding the
> > > code has a cost: code maintenance. This isn't a runtime cost, but it is
> > > a real, honest to goodness tradeoff.
> >
> > Its just the opposite. The vmemmap code is so efficient that we can remove
> > lots of other code and gops of these alternate implementations.
>
> We do want to make sure that there isn't anyone relying on these. Are
> you thinking of simple sparsemem vs. extreme vs. sparsemem vmemmap? Or,
> are you thinking of sparsemem vs. discontig?
I am thinking sparsemem default and then get rid discontig, flatmem etc.
On many platforms this will work. Flatmem for embedded could just be a
variation on sparse_virtual.
> Amen, brother. I'd love to see DISCONTIG die, with sufficient testing,
> of course. Andi, do you have any ideas on how to get sparsemem out of
> the 'experimental' phase?
Note that these arguments on DISCONTIG are flame bait for many SGIers.
We usually see this as an attack on DISCONTIG/VMEMMAP which is the
existing best performing implementation for page_to_pfn and vice
versa. Please lets stop the polarization. We want one consistent scheme
to manage memory everywhere. I do not care what its called as long as it
covers all the bases and is not a glaring performance regresssion (like
SPARSEMEM so far).
> I have noticed before that sparsemem should be able to cover the flatmem
> case if we make MAX_PHYSMEM_BITS == SECTION_SIZE_BITS and massage from
> there.
Right. But for embedded the memorymap base cannot be constant because
they may not be able to have a fixed address in memory. So memory map
needs to become a variable.
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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-01 7:10 [PATCH 1/2] Generic Virtual Memmap suport for SPARSEMEM Christoph Lameter
2007-04-01 7:10 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86_64: Switch to SPARSE_VIRTUAL Christoph Lameter
2007-04-01 7:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-01 10:46 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-02 15:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-02 15:44 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-02 15:51 ` Martin J. Bligh
2007-04-02 15:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-02 17:14 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-02 17:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-02 19:54 ` Dave Hansen
2007-04-02 20:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-02 20:13 ` Dave Hansen
2007-04-02 20:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-02 20:38 ` Martin Bligh
2007-04-02 20:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-05 11:50 ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-04-05 18:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-07 22:06 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86_64: (SPARSE_VIRTUAL doubles sparsemem speed) Christoph Lameter
2007-04-07 22:18 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-09 16:40 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-09 17:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-09 18:20 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-02 21:08 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86_64: Switch to SPARSE_VIRTUAL Dave Hansen
2007-04-02 21:28 ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2007-04-02 21:43 ` Martin Bligh
2007-04-02 21:56 ` Dave Hansen
2007-04-02 22:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-02 22:31 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-02 22:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-02 22:41 ` Martin Bligh
2007-04-02 22:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-02 22:52 ` Martin Bligh
2007-04-05 12:07 ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-04-04 21:27 ` Bob Picco
2007-04-04 22:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-02 23:03 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-04-02 15:44 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-02 16:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-02 20:50 ` [PATCH 1/2] Generic Virtual Memmap suport for SPARSEMEM Dave Hansen
2007-04-02 21:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-02 21:22 ` Dave Hansen
2007-04-02 21:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-02 21:42 ` Dave Hansen
2007-04-02 21:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-02 22:05 ` Dave Hansen
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