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From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, mszeredi@suse.cz, pbadari@us.ibm.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] holepunch: fix shmem_truncate_range punching too far
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:39:29 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0703291412240.24494@blonde.wat.veritas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1HWtTi-00013Z-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> 
> I think we should at least have a
> 
>   BUG_ON((end + 1) % PAGE_CACHE_SIZE);
> 
> or something, to remind us about this wart.

truncate_inode_pages_range does indeed have
	BUG_ON((lend & (PAGE_CACHE_SIZE - 1)) != (PAGE_CACHE_SIZE - 1));
but you're right that falls short of covering all the places we might
make such a mistake.

And in future I'd expect them to be extended to allow non-page-sized
holes, zeroing the partial areas at each end of the hole: whereupon
no such BUG_ON will be possible.

I'd much prefer to change the interface to vmtruncate_range,
truncate_inode_pages_range, shmem_truncate_range,
i_op->truncate_range, to take the expected end offset.

There are other interface changes needed to eradicate
(rather than paper over) the races we've mentioned in private mail.
shmem_truncate_range, and I believe any other implementation of an
i_op->truncate_range, needs to know when the holepunch is beginning
(if the prior unmap_mapping_range and truncate_inode_pages_range
aren't just to be a waste of time that has to be repeated).
Easiest is just to move those calls into each i_op->truncate_range.

But are we free to make such interface changes now?
Might third parties have observed MADV_REMOVE and ->truncate_range,
and be implementing them in their own filesystems?

And another change I'd like to suggest: at present holepunching
is using unmap_mapping_range(,,,1) which discards privately COWed
pages from vmas.  It's certainly easier to implement unracily if
we change it only to unmap the shared file pages: and I argue that
it's more correct that way, that the madvise(,,MADV_REMOVE) caller
should not be discarding private data from others' address spaces.

That behaviour is mandated by standards for truncation, and probably
necessary for consistent SIGBUS-beyond-EOF behaviour: but I question
(a year late!) whether we should be extending it to holepunching.

Hugh

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-29 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-28 14:50 Hugh Dickins
2007-03-28 14:51 ` [PATCH 2/4] holepunch: fix shmem_truncate_range punch locking Hugh Dickins
2007-03-29 11:32   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-28 14:52 ` [PATCH 3/4] holepunch: fix disconnected pages after second truncate Hugh Dickins
2007-03-28 14:54 ` [PATCH 4/4] holepunch: fix mmap_sem i_mutex deadlock Hugh Dickins
2007-03-29 10:57 ` [PATCH 1/4] holepunch: fix shmem_truncate_range punching too far Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-29 11:56   ` Hugh Dickins
2007-03-29 12:11     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-29 13:39       ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2007-03-29 14:35         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-29 22:48   ` Peter Chubb
2007-03-30  4:01     ` Hugh Dickins

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