From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@skynet.ie>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add __GFP_MOVABLE for callers to flag allocations that may be migrated
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 11:41:42 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612041133020.32337@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061204113051.4e90b249.akpm@osdl.org>
On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, Andrew Morton wrote:
> My concern is that __GFP_MOVABLE is useful for fragmentation-avoidance, but
> useless for memory hot-unplug. So that if/when hot-unplug comes along
> we'll add more gunk which is a somewhat-superset of the GFP_MOVABLE
> infrastructure, hence we didn't need the GFP_MOVABLE code. Or something.
It is useless for memory unplug until we implement limits for unmovable
pages in a zone (per MA_ORDER area? That would fit nicely into the anti
frag scheme) or until we have logic that makes !GFP_MOVABLE allocations
fall back to a node that is not removable.
> That depends on how we do hot-unplug, if we do it. I continue to suspect
> that it'll be done via memory zones: effectively by resurrecting
> GFP_HIGHMEM. In which case there's little overlap with anti-frag. (btw, I
> have a suspicion that the most important application of memory hot-unplug
> will be power management: destructively turning off DIMMs).
There are numerous other uses as well (besides DIMM and node unplug):
1. Faulty DIMM isolation
2. Virtual memory managers can reduce memory without resorting to
balloons.
3. Physical removal and exchange of memory while a system is running
(Likely necessary to complement hotplug cpu, cpus usually come
with memory).
The multi zone approach does not work with NUMA. NUMA only supports a
single zone for memory policy control etc. Also multiple zones carry with
it a management overhead that is unnecessary for the MOVABLE/UNMOVABLE
distinction.
> perhaps not for the hugetlbpage problem. Whereas anti-fragmentation adds
> vastly more code, but can address both problems? Or something.
I'd favor adding full defragmentation.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-12-04 19:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-30 17:07 Mel Gorman
2006-12-01 1:31 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-01 9:54 ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-01 19:01 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-04 14:07 ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-04 19:30 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-04 19:41 ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2006-12-04 20:06 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-04 20:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-04 21:19 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-04 21:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-04 22:22 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-05 16:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-05 19:25 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-05 20:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-05 21:47 ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-05 23:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-06 9:31 ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-06 17:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-08 1:21 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-12-08 2:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-08 6:11 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-12-05 18:10 ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-04 20:34 ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-04 22:34 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-04 23:45 ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-05 1:16 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-12-05 10:03 ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-05 16:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-05 18:26 ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-05 19:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-05 16:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-05 17:17 ` Mel Gorman
2006-12-05 19:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-12-05 15:52 ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-12-05 15:48 ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-12-04 20:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-12-06 14:18 ` Andy Whitcroft
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