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From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@skynet.ie>, Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/11] Add __GFP_MOVABLE flag and update callers
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 00:44:59 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611260039070.27769@blonde.wat.veritas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611251058350.6991@woody.osdl.org>

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > 
> > You need to add in something like the patch below (mutatis mutandis
> > for whichever approach you end up taking): tmpfs uses highmem pages
> > for its swap vector blocks, noting where on swap the data pages are,
> > and allocates them with mapping_gfp_mask(inode->i_mapping); but we
> > don't have any mechanism in place for reclaiming or migrating those.
> 
> I think this really just points out that you should _not_ put MOVABLE into 
> the "mapping_gfp_mask()" at all.
> 
> The mapping_gfp_mask() should really just contain the "constraints" on 
> the allocation, not the "how the allocation is used". So things like "I 
> need all my pages to be in the 32bit DMA'able region" is a constraint on 
> the allocator, as is something like "I need the allocation to be atomic". 
> 
> But MOVABLE is really not a constraint on the allocator, it's a guarantee 
> by the code _calling_ the allocator that it will then make sure that it 
> _uses_ the allocation in a way that means that it is movable.
> 
> So it shouldn't be a property of the mapping itself, it should always be a 
> property of the code that actually does the allocation.
> 
> Hmm?

Not anything I feel strongly about, but I don't see it that way.

mapping_gfp_mask() seems to me nothing more than a pragmatic way
of getting the appropriate gfp_mask down to page_cache_alloc().

alloc_inode() initializes it to whatever suits most filesystems
(currently GFP_HIGHUSER), and those who differ adjust it (e.g.
block_dev has good reason to avoid highmem so sets it to GFP_USER
instead).  It used to be the case that several filesystems lacked
kmap() where needed, and those too would set GFP_USER: what you call
a constraint seems to me equally a property of the surrounding code.

If __GFP_MOVABLE is coming in, and most fs's are indeed allocating
movable pages, then I don't see why MOVABLE shouldn't be in the
mapping_gfp_mask.  Specifying MOVABLE constrains both the caller's
use of the pages, and the way they are allocated; as does HIGHMEM.

And we shouldn't be guided by the way tmpfs (ab?)uses that gfp_mask
for its metadata allocations as well as its page_cache_alloc()s:
that's just a special case.  Though the ramfs case is more telling
(its pagecache pages being not at present movable).

Hugh

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-26  0:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-21 22:50 [PATCH 0/11] Avoiding fragmentation with page clustering v27 Mel Gorman
2006-11-21 22:50 ` [PATCH 1/11] Add __GFP_MOVABLE flag and update callers Mel Gorman
2006-11-21 23:30   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-21 23:43     ` Mel Gorman
2006-11-21 23:51       ` Dave Hansen
2006-11-22  0:44       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-23 16:36         ` Mel Gorman
2006-11-23 17:11           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-24 10:44             ` Mel Gorman
2006-11-24 19:57               ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-24 20:13                 ` Mel Gorman
2006-11-24 21:06                   ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-25 11:47                     ` Mel Gorman
2006-11-25 19:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-26  0:44                   ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2006-11-27 16:32                     ` Mel Gorman
2006-11-27 17:28                       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-27 19:48                     ` Add __GFP_MOVABLE for callers to flag allocations that may be migrated Mel Gorman
2006-11-24 17:59             ` [PATCH 1/11] Add __GFP_MOVABLE flag and update callers Christoph Lameter
2006-11-24 18:11               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-24 20:04               ` Mel Gorman
2006-11-22  2:25       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-11-23 15:00         ` Mel Gorman
2006-11-21 22:51 ` [PATCH 2/11] Split the free lists for movable and unmovable allocations Mel Gorman
2006-11-21 22:51 ` [PATCH 3/11] Choose pages from the per-cpu list based on migration type Mel Gorman
2006-11-21 22:51 ` [PATCH 4/11] Add a configure option for page clustering Mel Gorman
2006-11-21 22:52 ` [PATCH 5/11] Drain per-cpu lists when high-order allocations fail Mel Gorman
2006-11-21 22:52 ` [PATCH 6/11] Move free pages between lists on steal Mel Gorman
2006-11-21 22:52 ` [PATCH 7/11] Mark short-lived and reclaimable kernel allocations Mel Gorman
2006-11-21 22:53 ` [PATCH 8/11] [DEBUG] Add statistics Mel Gorman
2006-11-21 22:53 ` [PATCH 9/11] Add a bitmap that is used to track flags affecting a block of pages Mel Gorman
2006-11-21 22:53 ` [PATCH 10/11] Remove dependency on page->flag bits Mel Gorman
2006-11-21 22:54 ` [PATCH 11/11] Use pageblock flags for page clustering Mel Gorman

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