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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: virtual memmap sparsity: Dealing with fragmented MAX_ORDER blocks
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 09:16:52 +0100 (IST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609260901160.15574@skynet.skynet.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609251643150.25159@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006, Christoph Lameter wrote:

> Regarding buddy checks out of memmap:
>
> 1. This problem only occurs if we allow fragments of MAX_ORDER size
>   segments. The default needs to be not to allow that. Then we do not
>   need  any checks like right now on IA64. Why would one want smaller
>   granularity than 2M/4M in hotplugging?
>

On a local IA64 machine, the MAX_ORDER block of pages is not 2M or 4M but 
1GB. This is a base pagesize of 16K and a MAX_ORDER of 17. At best, 
MAX_ORDER could be fixed to present 256MB but there would be wastage.

> 2. If you must have these fragments then we need to check the validity
>   of the buddy pointers before derefencing them to see if pages can
>   be combined.

i.e. pfn_valid()

> If fragments are permitted then a
>   special function needs to be called to check if the address we are
>   accessing is legit. Preferably this would be done with an instruction
>   that can use the MMU to verify if the address is valid
>
>   On IA64 this is done with the "probe" instruction
>

Why does IA64 not use this then? Currently, it uses __get_user() and 
catches faults when they occur.

>   Looking through the i386 commands I see a VERR mnemonic that
>   I guess will do what you need on i386 and x86_64 in order to do
>   what we need without a page table walk.
>
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Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2006-09-26  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-24 16:59 virtual mmap basics Christoph Lameter
2006-09-25 12:28 ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-09-25 16:27   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-25 17:11     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-25 21:05       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-25 22:22         ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-09-25 23:37           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-26 12:06             ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-09-25 18:09     ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-09-25 21:00       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-25 23:54         ` virtual memmap sparsity: Dealing with fragmented MAX_ORDER blocks Christoph Lameter
2006-09-26  0:31           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-26 12:11             ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-09-26 15:23               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-26  8:16           ` Mel Gorman [this message]

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