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From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Martin Bligh <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
	akpm@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Initial alpha-0 for new page allocator API
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 12:17:06 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609221212150.8764@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200609222110.25118.ak@suse.de>

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Andi Kleen wrote:

> We already have that scheme. Any existing driver should be already converted
> away from GFP_DMA towards dma_*/pci_*. dma_* knows all the magic
> how to get memory for the various ranges. No need to mess up the 
> main allocator.

That is not the case. The "magic" ends in arch specific 
*_alloc_dma_coherent function tinkering around with __GFP_DMA and in 
x86_64 in addition GFP_DMA32.
> 
> Anyways, i suppose what could be added as a fallback would be a 
> really_slow_brute_force_try_to_get_something_in_this_range() allocator
> that basically goes through the buddy lists freeing in >O(1) 
> and does some directed reclaim, but that would likely be a separate
> path anyways and not need your new structure to impact the O(1)
> allocator.

Right.

> I am still unconvinced of the real need. The only gaping hole was 
> GFP_DMA32, which we fixed already.

And then about DMA zones being associated with arch independent memory 
ranges which is not the case. GFP_DMA32 just happens to be defined by a
single arch and thus is has only one interpretation.

> Ok there is aacraid with its weird 2GB limit, but in case there are
> really enough users running into this broken then then the really_slow_*
> thing above would be likely fine. And those cards are slowly going
> away too.  

I agree.

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-22 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-22  4:02 Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22  6:17 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-22 16:35   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22 19:10     ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-22 19:17       ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2006-09-22 19:24       ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-22 20:10       ` Alan Cox
2006-09-22 20:02         ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-22 20:14           ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-22 20:23             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22 20:41               ` Jesse Barnes
2006-09-22 21:01                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22 21:14                   ` Jesse Barnes
2006-09-22 21:21                     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22 20:48               ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-22 21:13                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22 21:32                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22 23:34               ` More thoughts on getting rid of ZONE_DMA Andi Kleen
2006-09-23  0:23                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-23  0:39                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-23  0:25                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-23  0:37                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-24  2:13                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-24  2:36                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-09-24  7:26                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-24  7:19                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-22 17:36   ` [RFC] Initial alpha-0 for new page allocator API Christoph Lameter

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