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From: Christoph Lameter <christoph@engr.sgi.com>
To: Martin Bligh <mbligh@google.com>
Cc: Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@kvack.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] Optional ZONE_DMA V1
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:53:56 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609121049280.11481@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4506F2B9.5020600@google.com>

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006, Martin Bligh wrote:

> > This is wrong. All memory should be in ZONE_NORMAL since we have no DMA
> > restrictions on Altix.
> 
> PPC64 works the same way, I believe. All memory is DMA'able, therefore
> it all fits in ZONE_DMA.

ZONE_DMA is for broken/limited DMA controllers not for DMA controllers 
that can reach all of memory.
 
> The real problem is that there's no consistent definition of what the
> zones actually mean.

ZONE_DMA 	Special memory area for DMA controllers that can only
			do dma to a restricted memory area.

ZONE_DMA32	Second special memory area for DMA controllers that
		can only do dma to a restricted memory area that
		is different from ZONE_DMA

ZONE_NORMAL	Regular memory

ZONE_HIGHEM	Memory requires being mapped into kernel address space.


> 1. Is it DMA'able (this is stupid, as it doesn't say 'for what device'

That is *not* what ZONE_DMA means. We have always supported DMA to 
regular  memory.

> What is really needed is to pass a physical address limit from the
> caller, together with a flag that says whether the memory needs to be
> mapped into the permanent kernel address space or not. The allocator
> then finds the set of zones that will fulfill this criteria.
> But I suspect this level of change will cause too many people to squeak
> loudly.

Actually we could do this with the proposed change of passing an 
allocation_control struct instead of gfpflags to the allocator functions. 
See the discussion on linux-mm.

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-12 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-18 18:36 [PATCH 0/8] Optional ZONE_DMA V2 Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 18:36 ` [PATCH 1/8] Deal with cases of ZONE_DMA meaning the first zone Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 18:36 ` [PATCH 2/8] Introduce CONFIG_ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 18:36 ` [PATCH 3/8] Optional ZONE_DMA in the VM Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 18:36 ` [PATCH 4/8] Optional ZONE_DMA for i386 Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 18:36 ` [PATCH 5/8] Optional ZONE_DMA for x86_64 Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 18:36 ` [PATCH 6/8] Optional ZONE_DMA for ia64 Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 18:36 ` [PATCH 7/8] Remove ZONE_DMA remains from parisc Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 18:36 ` [PATCH 8/8] Remove ZONE_DMA remains from sh/sh64 Christoph Lameter
     [not found]   ` <20060911222729.4849.69497.sendpatchset@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
     [not found]     ` <20060911222744.4849.26386.sendpatchset@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
     [not found]       ` <450600C7.7090801@yahoo.com.au>
2006-09-12  1:40         ` [PATCH 3/6] Optional ZONE_DMA in the VM Christoph Lameter
     [not found]     ` <20060912133457.GC10689@sgi.com>
     [not found]       ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609121032310.11278@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
2006-09-12 17:47         ` [PATCH 0/8] Optional ZONE_DMA V1 Martin Bligh
2006-09-12 17:53           ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
     [not found]     ` <1158046205.2992.1.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
     [not found]       ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609121024290.11188@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
     [not found]         ` <yq0d5a0fbcj.fsf@jaguar.mkp.net>
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609130109030.15792@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
     [not found]             ` <4507D4EE.4060501@sgi.com>
2006-09-13 17:23               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-13 17:49                 ` Jack Steiner
2006-09-13 18:00                   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-14  8:52                     ` Jes Sorensen
2006-09-14 16:55                       ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]     ` <20060911222739.4849.79915.sendpatchset@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
     [not found]       ` <20060918135559.GB15096@infradead.org>
     [not found]         ` <20060918152243.GA4320@localhost.na.rta>
2006-09-18 17:33           ` [PATCH 2/6] Introduce CONFIG_ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 22:45             ` Paul Mundt
2006-09-18 22:58               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-18 23:25                 ` Paul Mundt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-09-11 22:30 [PATCH 0/8] Optional ZONE_DMA V1 Christoph Lameter

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