From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, mason@suse.com,
andrea@suse.de, axboe@suse.de
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch] remove racy sync_page?
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 04:06:18 +0100 (BST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0605310335180.4441@blonde.wat.veritas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <447CE1A3.60507@yahoo.com.au>
On Wed, 31 May 2006, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > lock_page forbids it from being called from anywhere that can't
> > sleep, which is often just where we want to call it from. Neil's
> > suggestion, using a spin_lock against the mapping changing, would
> > help there; but seems like more work than I'd want to get into.
>
> But making PG_lock a spinning lock is completely unrelated to the
> bug at hand.
Neil wasn't suggesting making PG_lock a spinning lock, he was
suggesting a further bit used that way. And I thought his suggestion
was relevant to the bug at hand. But it's not the way I'd like to go.
> > So, although I think lock_page_nosync fixes the bug (at least in
> > that one place we've identified there's likely to be such a bug),
> > it seems to be aiming at the wrong target. I'm pacing and thinking,
> > doubt I'll come up with anything better, please don't hold breath.
>
> It is the correct target. I know all about your set_page_dirty_lock
> problems, but they aren't what I'm trying to fix.
Yes, I had noticed yours is a different issue. I'm saying that if we
can "fix" set_page_dirty_nolock not to sleep, then your issue is fixed
(as least as it affects set_page_dirty_lock, which is all your patch
is dealing with, and we hope all it needs to deal with). Because your
issue is with the sync_page in the lock_page of set_page_dirty_nolock,
and it's that particular lock_page which I'm trying to be rid of.
I now think it can be done: in cases where TestSetPageLocked finds
the page already locked, then I believe we can fall back to inode_lock
to stabilize. But I do need to consider the possibilities some more.
> AFAIKS, you could also make set_page_dirty_lock non sleeping quite
> easily by making inode slabs RCU freed.
Which would equally deal with your issue. Yes, but it's always
seemed to me too great a risk, to add an RCU delay into such
significant slab shrinking - I don't want to handle the fallout.
> What places want to use set_page_dirty_lock without sleeping?
> The only place in drivers/ apart from sg/st that SetPageDirty are
> rd.c and via_dmablit.c, both of which look OK, if a bit crufty.
I've not looked recently, but bio.c sticks in the mind as one which
is pushed to the full contortions to allow for sleeping there.
Hugh
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-31 3:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-29 9:34 Nick Piggin
2006-05-29 19:15 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-30 0:08 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-30 1:32 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-30 2:54 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-30 3:14 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-30 4:13 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-30 9:05 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-31 13:43 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-31 15:09 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-05-31 15:22 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-31 17:51 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-31 17:50 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-30 4:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-30 5:07 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-30 5:21 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-30 6:12 ` Neil Brown
2006-05-30 7:10 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-31 4:34 ` Neil Brown
2006-05-30 8:24 ` Nikita Danilov
2006-05-30 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-31 0:32 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-31 0:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-31 1:33 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-31 6:11 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-31 12:55 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-31 13:02 ` Jens Axboe
2006-06-01 13:19 ` NCQ performance (was Re: [rfc][patch] remove racy sync_page?) Jens Axboe
2006-06-01 14:56 ` Avi Kivity
2006-06-01 15:03 ` Jens Axboe
2006-06-01 18:04 ` Jens Axboe
2006-06-05 5:30 ` Avi Kivity
2006-06-05 7:59 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-31 12:31 ` [rfc][patch] remove racy sync_page? Helge Hafting
2006-05-31 12:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-31 13:29 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-31 13:41 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-31 13:54 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-31 14:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-31 14:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-31 15:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-31 15:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-31 18:13 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-31 18:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-30 5:36 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-30 18:31 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-05-31 0:21 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-31 3:06 ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2006-05-31 14:30 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-05-31 17:56 ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-30 5:51 ` Josef Sipek
2006-05-30 6:44 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-30 6:50 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-30 13:12 ` Josef Sipek
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