From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
Cc: Lee Schermerhorn <lee.schermerhorn@hp.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: page migration: Fail with error if swap not setup
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:08:34 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603151002490.27212@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060315204742.GB12432@dmt.cnet>
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > At that point we can also follow Marcelo's suggestion and move the
> > migration code into mm/mmigrate.c because it then becomes easier to
> > separate the migration code from swap.
>
> Please - the migration code really does not belong to mm/vmscan.c.
It performs scanning and has lots of overlapping functionality with
swap. Migration was developed based on the swap code in vmscan.c.
> On the assumption that those page mappings are going to be used, which
> is questionable.
>
> Lazily faulting the page mappings instead of "pre-faulting" really
> depends on the load (tradeoff) - might be interesting to make it
> selectable.
If the ptes are removed then the mapcount of the pages also sinks which
makes it likely that the swapper will evict these.
> > - Support migration of VM_LOCKED pages (First question is if we want to
> > have that at all. Does VM_LOCKED imply that a page is fixed at a
> > specific location in memory?).
> Cryptographic security software often handles critical bytes like passwords
> or secret keys as data structures. As a result of paging, these secrets
> could be transferred onto a persistent swap store medium, where they
> might be accessible to the enemy long after the security software has
> erased the secrets in RAM and terminated.
That does not answer the question if VM_LOCKED pages should be
migratable. We all agree that they should not show up on swap.
> > - Think about how to realize migration of kernel pages (some arches have
> > page table for kernel space, one could potentially remap the address
> > instead of going through all the twists and turns of the existing
> > hotplug approach. See also what virtual iron has done about this.).
>
> Locking sounds tricky, how do you guarantee that nobody is going to
> access such kernel virtual addresses (and their TLB-cached entries)
> while they're physical address is being changed ?
I guess this could be done by having a very simple fault handler for
kernel memory that would simply wait on a valid pte.
Then invalidate pte, move the page and reinstall pte.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-15 18:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-15 3:05 Christoph Lameter
2006-03-15 3:24 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-15 3:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-15 3:52 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-15 3:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-15 12:49 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-15 16:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-15 3:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-15 14:47 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2006-03-15 17:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-15 20:47 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-03-15 18:08 ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2006-03-15 21:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-03-15 19:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-15 23:06 ` Marcelo Tosatti
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