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From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
Cc: Lee Schermerhorn <lee.schermerhorn@hp.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: page migration: Fail with error if swap not setup
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:08:34 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603151002490.27212@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060315204742.GB12432@dmt.cnet>

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:

> > At that point we can also follow Marcelo's suggestion and move the 
> > migration code into mm/mmigrate.c because it then becomes easier to 
> > separate the migration code from swap. 
> 
> Please - the migration code really does not belong to mm/vmscan.c.

It performs scanning and has lots of overlapping functionality with 
swap. Migration was developed based on the swap code in vmscan.c.

> On the assumption that those page mappings are going to be used, which
> is questionable.
> 
> Lazily faulting the page mappings instead of "pre-faulting" really
> depends on the load (tradeoff) - might be interesting to make it 
> selectable.

If the ptes are removed then the mapcount of the pages also sinks which 
makes it likely that the swapper will evict these.

> > - Support migration of VM_LOCKED pages (First question is if we want to 
> >   have that at all. Does VM_LOCKED imply that a page is fixed at a 
> >   specific location in memory?).
> Cryptographic  security  software often handles critical bytes like passwords
> or secret keys as data structures. As a result of paging, these secrets
> could  be  transferred  onto a persistent swap store medium, where they
> might be accessible to the enemy long after the security  software  has
> erased  the secrets in RAM and terminated. 

That does not answer the question if VM_LOCKED pages should be 
migratable. We all agree that they should not show up on swap.

> > - Think about how to realize migration of kernel pages (some arches have
> >   page table for kernel space, one could potentially remap the address 
> >   instead of going through all the twists and turns of the existing 
> >   hotplug approach. See also what virtual iron has done about this.).
> 
> Locking sounds tricky, how do you guarantee that nobody is going to
> access such kernel virtual addresses (and their TLB-cached entries)
> while they're physical address is being changed ?

I guess this could be done by having a very simple fault handler for 
kernel memory that would simply wait on a valid pte.

Then invalidate pte, move the page and reinstall pte.

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-15 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-15  3:05 Christoph Lameter
2006-03-15  3:24 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-15  3:49   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-15  3:52     ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-15  3:59       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-15 12:49         ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-15 16:35           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-15  3:53   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-15 14:47 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2006-03-15 17:11   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-15 20:47     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-03-15 18:08       ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2006-03-15 21:39         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-03-15 19:00           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-15 23:06             ` Marcelo Tosatti

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