From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
lhms-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] ppc64 - Specify amount of kernel memory at boot time
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:04:24 +0000 (GMT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602240902220.19157@skynet.skynet.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1140718555.8697.73.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 18:01 +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> OK, back to the hapless system admin using kernelcore. They have a
>>> 4-node system with 2GB of RAM in each node for 8GB total. They use
>>> kernelcore=1GB. They end up with 4x1GB ZONE_DMA and 4x1GB
>>> ZONE_EASYRCLM. Perfect. You can safely remove 4GB of RAM.
>>>
>>> Now, imagine that the machine has been heavily used for a while, there
>>> is only 1 node's memory available, but CPUs are available in the same
>>> places as before. So, you start up your partition again have 8GB of
>>> memory in one node. Same kernelcore=1GB option. You get 1x7GB ZONE_DMA
>>> and 1x1GB ZONE_EASYRCLM. I'd argue this is going to be a bit of a
>>> surprise to the poor admin.
>>>
>>
>> That sort of surprise is totally unacceptable but the behaviour of
>> kernelcore needs to be consistent on both the x86 and the ppc (any any
>> other ar. How about;
>>
>> 1. kernelcore=X determines the total amount of memory for !ZONE_EASYRCLM
>> (be it ZONE_DMA, ZONE_NORMAL or ZONE_HIGHMEM)
>
> Sounds reasonable. But, if you're going to do that, should we just make
> it the opposite and explicitly be easy_reclaim_mem=? Do we want the
> limit to be set as "I need this much kernel memory", or "I want this
> much removable memory". I dunno.
>
I think we should keep it at kernelcore=. If you have too little easyrclm
memory, then hot-remove and hugetlb availability is impaired. If you
have too little kernel memory, you have a really bad day.
>> 2. For every node that can have ZONE_EASYRCLM, split the kernelcore across
>> the nodes as a percentage of the node size
>>
>> Example: 4 nodes, 1 GiB each, kernelcore=512MB
>> node 0 ZONE_DMA = 128MB
>> node 1 ZONE_DMA = 128MB
>> node 2 ZONE_DMA = 128MB
>> node 3 ZONE_DMA = 128MB
>>
>> 2 nodes, 3GiB and 1GIB, kernelcore=512MB
>> node 0 ZONE_DMA = 384
>> node 1 ZONE_DMA = 128
>>
>> It gets a bit more complex on NUMA for x86 because ZONE_NORMAL is
>> involved but the idea would essentially be the same.
>
> Yes, chopping it up seems like the right thing (or as close as we can
> get) to me.
>
Ok, will rework the code to make it happen.
--
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick IBM Dublin Software Lab
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-24 9:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-17 14:15 [PATCH 0/7] Reducing fragmentation using zones v5 Mel Gorman
2006-02-17 14:16 ` [PATCH 1/7] Add __GFP_EASYRCLM flag and update callers Mel Gorman
2006-02-17 14:16 ` [PATCH 2/7] Create the ZONE_EASYRCLM zone Mel Gorman
2006-02-17 14:16 ` [PATCH 3/7] x86 - Specify amount of kernel memory at boot time Mel Gorman
2006-02-17 14:17 ` [PATCH 4/7] ppc64 " Mel Gorman
2006-02-17 17:16 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-17 19:03 ` Mel Gorman
2006-02-17 19:17 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-17 19:36 ` Mel Gorman
2006-02-17 21:31 ` Joel Schopp
2006-02-21 14:51 ` Mel Gorman
2006-02-21 17:35 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-22 16:43 ` Mel Gorman
2006-02-23 16:42 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-23 17:19 ` Mel Gorman
2006-02-23 17:38 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-23 18:01 ` Mel Gorman
2006-02-23 18:15 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-24 0:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-02-24 9:04 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2006-02-23 17:40 ` Mike Kravetz
2006-02-17 14:17 ` [PATCH 5/7] At boot, determine what zone memory will hot-add to Mel Gorman
2006-02-17 14:17 ` [PATCH 6/7] Allow HugeTLB allocations to use ZONE_EASYRCLM Mel Gorman
2006-02-17 14:18 ` [PATCH 7/7] Add documentation for extra boot parameters Mel Gorman
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