From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>,
kenneth.w.chen@intel.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [NUMA] Display and modify the memory policy of a process through /proc/<pid>/numa_policy
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:55:45 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0507151450570.11656@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050715214700.GJ15783@wotan.suse.de>
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Andi Kleen wrote:
> So for what does that batch monstrosity need to know
> about the VMAs?
It needs to know where the memory of a process is. Thus
/proc/<pid>/numa_maps.
> I don't believe any admin will mess with virtual addresses.
No but they will mess with vma's which are only identifiable by the
starting virtual address.
> But for "uncooperative" programs working on bigger objects
> like threads/files/shm areas/processes makes much more sense. And gives
> much cleaner interfaces too.
Look at the existing patches and you see a huge complexity and heuristics
because the kernel guesses which vma's to migrate. If the vma are
exposed to the batch scheduler / admin then things become much easier to
implement and the batch scheduler / admin has finer grained control.
> Now I can see some people being interested in more fine grained
> policy, but the only sane way to do that is to change the source
> code and use libnuma.
Can libnuma change the memory policy and move pages of existing processes?
> Basically to mess with finegrained virtual addresses you need code access,
> and when you have that you can as well do it well and add
> libnuma and recompile.
libnuma is pretty heavy and AFAIK does not have the functionality that is
required here.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-07-15 21:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-07-15 1:39 Christoph Lameter
2005-07-15 3:50 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-15 4:52 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-15 5:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-07-15 5:55 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-15 6:05 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-15 11:46 ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-15 16:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-07-15 21:04 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-15 21:12 ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-15 21:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-07-15 21:47 ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-15 21:55 ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2005-07-15 22:07 ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-15 22:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-07-15 22:37 ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-15 22:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-07-15 22:56 ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-15 23:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-07-15 23:44 ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-15 23:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-07-16 2:01 ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-16 15:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-07-16 22:39 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-16 23:30 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-17 1:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-07-17 3:50 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-17 5:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-07-17 7:22 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-17 3:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-07-17 4:51 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-17 6:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-07-17 8:17 ` Paul Jackson
2005-07-16 0:00 ` David Singleton
2005-07-16 0:16 ` Steve Neuner
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