From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: wesolows@foobazco.org, willy@debian.org, andrea@suse.de,
benh@kernel.crashing.org, akpm@osdl.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, bcrl@kvack.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ppc64: Fix possible race with set_pte on a present PTE
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 13:49:57 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0405251340160.9951@ppc970.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040525133543.753fc5a5.davem@redhat.com>
On Tue, 25 May 2004, David S. Miller wrote:
>
> Hmmm, do you understand how broken the sparc hardware is? :-)
I seem to always repress that part.
> Seriously, the issue is that the MMU writes back access/dirty bits
> asynchronously, does not do a relookup when it writes these bits back
> into the PTE (like x86 and others do) it actually stores away the PTE
> physical address and writes into the PTE using that, and finally as
> previously mentioned we lack a cmpxchg we only have raw SWAP.
Ok. Still, that doesn't sound too bad. I assume that the pte write has to
be atomic anyway (ie it doesn't walk the page tables, but it clearly _has_
to do an atomic "read-modify-update" or just the _hardware_ updates might
race against each other and one CPU loses the dirty bit when another CPU
writes back the accessed bit).
So I really think it should be safe to just do a regular write when you
update both bits, because you know that no other CPU will at least _clear_
any bits. Hmm?
So it sounds like the SWAP loop basically ends up being just something
like
val = pte_value(entry);
for (;;) {
oldval = SWAP(ptep, val);
/*
* If we wrote a value that had the same or more bits set
* than the old value, we're ok...
*/
if (!(oldval & ~val))
break;
/*
* ..otherwise we need to write the "or" of all bits and
* try again.
*/
val |= oldval;
}
Right? Note that the reason we can do the "dirty and accessed bit both
set" case with a simple write is exactly because that's already the
"maximal" bits anybody can write to the thing, so we don't need to loop,
we can just write it directly.
I realize that this isn't as simple as the x86 solution (or most
everything else, for that matter ;), but it's by no means totally
unreasonable. Or are there even _more_ gotchas that I've missed?
Linus
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2004-05-24 5:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-24 5:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-24 5:38 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-24 5:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-24 7:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-05-24 5:39 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-25 3:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-25 4:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-25 4:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-25 4:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-25 4:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-25 4:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-25 4:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-25 4:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-25 4:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-25 5:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-25 4:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-25 4:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-25 4:43 ` David Mosberger
2004-05-25 4:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-27 21:56 ` David Mosberger
2004-05-27 22:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-27 22:12 ` David Mosberger
2004-05-25 11:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-05-25 14:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-25 15:35 ` Keith M Wesolowski
2004-05-25 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-25 17:25 ` David S. Miller
2004-05-25 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-25 17:54 ` David S. Miller
2004-05-25 18:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-25 20:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-25 20:35 ` David S. Miller
2004-05-25 20:49 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2004-05-25 20:57 ` David S. Miller
2004-05-26 6:20 ` Keith M Wesolowski
2004-05-25 21:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-25 21:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-25 22:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-25 22:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-25 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-26 0:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-26 0:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-26 3:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-26 4:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-26 4:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-26 4:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-26 4:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-26 4:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-26 4:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-26 4:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-26 4:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-26 4:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-26 5:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-26 5:59 ` [PATCH] (signoff) " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-26 6:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-25 22:05 ` [PATCH] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-25 22:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-25 22:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-25 22:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-25 21:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-25 21:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-25 21:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-25 22:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-25 22:18 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2004-05-25 22:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-26 2:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-26 7:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-25 21:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-01 12:04 Martin Schwidefsky
2004-06-01 12:10 Martin Schwidefsky
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