From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>
To: Alok Mooley <rangdi@yahoo.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Active Memory Defragmentation: Our implementation & problems
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 14:33:09 -0500 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0402041427270.2947@chaos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040204191829.57468.qmail@web9704.mail.yahoo.com>
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Alok Mooley wrote:
> --- "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com> >
> If this is an Intel x86 machine, it is impossible
> > for pages
> > to get fragmented in the first place. The hardware
> > allows any
> > page, from anywhere in memory, to be concatenated
> > into linear
> > virtual address space. Even the kernel address space
> > is virtual.
> > The only time you need physically-adjacent pages is
> > if you
> > are doing DMA that is more than a page-length at a
> > time. The
> > kernel keeps a bunch of those pages around for just
> > that
> > purpose.
> >
> > So, if you are making a "memory defragmenter", it is
> > a CPU time-sink.
> > That's all.
>
> What if the external fragmentation increases so much
> that it is not possible to find a large sized block?
> Then, is it not better to defragment rather than swap
> or fail?
>
> -Alok
All "blocks" are the same size, i.e., PAGE_SIZE. When RAM
is tight the content of a page is written to the swap-file
according to a least-recently-used protocol. This frees
a page. Pages are allocated to a process only one page at
a time. This prevents some hog from grabbing all the memory
in the machine. Memory allocation and physical page allocation
are two different things, I can malloc() a gigabyte of RAM on
a machine. It only gets allocated when an attempt is made
to access a page.
Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.4.24 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips).
Note 96.31% of all statistics are fiction.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-02-04 19:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-02-03 4:46 Alok Mooley
2004-02-03 21:26 ` Dave Hansen
2004-02-03 22:26 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-04 5:09 ` Alok Mooley
2004-02-04 5:24 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-04 5:54 ` Dave Hansen
2004-02-04 6:05 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-04 6:22 ` Dave Hansen
2004-02-04 6:29 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-04 6:40 ` Dave Hansen
2004-02-04 7:17 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-04 8:30 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-04 6:53 ` Doubt about statm_pgd_range patch Arunkumar
2004-02-04 6:57 ` Active Memory Defragmentation: Our implementation & problems IWAMOTO Toshihiro
2004-02-04 7:10 ` Dave Hansen
2004-02-04 7:50 ` IWAMOTO Toshihiro
2004-02-04 10:33 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-02-04 18:33 ` Alok Mooley
2004-02-04 18:46 ` Dave Hansen
2004-02-04 18:54 ` Alok Mooley
2004-02-04 19:07 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-02-04 19:18 ` Alok Mooley
2004-02-04 19:33 ` Richard B. Johnson [this message]
2004-02-05 5:07 ` Alok Mooley
2004-02-05 19:03 ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-04 19:35 ` Dave McCracken
2004-02-04 21:59 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-04 23:24 ` Dave Hansen
2004-02-05 16:32 ` Dave McCracken
2004-02-04 19:37 ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-04 19:43 ` Dave Hansen
2004-02-04 19:59 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-02-04 19:56 ` Dave Hansen
2004-02-05 5:19 ` Alok Mooley
2004-02-04 20:12 Mark_H_Johnson
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