From: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: inactive_dirty list
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:49:41 -0300 (BRT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0209061845280.1857-100000@imladris.surriel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D7920E8.5E22D27B@zip.com.au>
On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > It also meant we could have dirty (or formerly dirty) inactive
> > pages eating up memory and never being recycled for more active
> > data.
>
> The interrupt-time page motion should reduce that...
Not if you won't scan the dirty list as long as there are "enough"
clean pages.
> > What you need to do instead is:
> >
> > - inactive_dirty contains pages from which we're not sure whether
> > they're dirty or clean
> >
> > - everywhere we add a page to the inactive list now, we add
> > the page to the inactive_dirty list
> >
> > This means we'll have a fairer scan and eviction rate between
> > clean and dirty pages.
>
> And how do they get onto inactive_clean?
Once IO completes they get moved onto the clean list.
> > We can also get rid of this logic. There is no difference between
> > swap pages and mmap'd file pages. If blk_congestion_wait() works
> > we can get rid of this special magic and just use it. If it doesn't
> > work, we need to fix blk_congestion_wait() since otherwise the VM
> > would fall over under heavy mmap() usage.
>
> That would probably work. We'd need to do the pte_dirty->PageDirty
> translation carefully.
Indeed. We probably want to give such pages a second chance on
the inactive_dirty list without starting the writeout, so we've
unmapped and PageDirtied all its friends for one big writeout.
> > With this scheme, we can restrict tasks to scanning only the
> > inactive_clean list.
> >
> > Kswapd's scanning of the inactive_dirty list is always asynchronous
> > so we don't need to worry about latency. No need to waste CPU by
> > having other tasks also scan this very same list and submit IO.
>
> Why does kswapd need to scan that list?
The list should preferably only be scanned by one thread.
Scanning with multiple threads is a waste of CPU.
It doesn't really matter which thread is scanning, but I
think we want some preferably simple way to prevent all
CPUs in the system from going wild over the nonfreeable
lists.
> > > order. But I think that end_page_writeback() should still move
> > > cleaned pages onto the far (hot) end of inactive_clean?
> >
> > IMHO inactive_clean should just contain KNOWN FREEABLE pages,
> > as an area beyond the inactive_dirty list.
>
> Confused. So where do anon pages go?
All pages go onto the inactive_dirty list. When they reach
the end of the list either we move them to the inactive_clean
list, we submit IO or (in the case of a mapped page) we give
them another go-around on the list in order to build up a
cluster from the other still-mapped pages near it.
regards,
Rik
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-09-06 21:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-06 20:42 Andrew Morton
2002-09-06 21:03 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-06 21:40 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-06 21:49 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2002-09-06 21:58 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-06 22:04 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-06 22:19 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-06 22:23 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-06 22:48 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-06 23:03 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-06 23:34 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-07 0:00 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-07 0:29 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-08 21:21 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-06 22:22 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-07 2:14 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-07 2:10 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-07 5:28 ` Andrew Morton
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