From: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Cc: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
Dave McCracken <dmccr@us.ibm.com>,
Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Optimize out pte_chain take three
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:05:46 -0300 (BRT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L.0207111703080.14432-100000@imladris.surriel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D2DE264.17706BB4@zip.com.au>
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Rik thought these are pagecache and swap thrashers, but that's not
> the intent. Think of the file as program text and the malloced
> memory as, well, malloced memory.
>
> The problem is the access pattern. It shouldn't be random-uniform.
> But what should it be? random-gaussian?
> Does this not capture what the VM is supposed to do?
Indeed. This sounds like a much much better test.
> useful pagecache and swapping everything out. Our kernels have
> O_STREAMING because of this. It simply removes as much pagecache
> as it can, each time ->nrpages reaches 256. It's rather effective.
Now why does that remind me of drop-behind ? ;)
> I installed 2.5.25+rmap on my desktop yesterday. Come in this morning
> to discover half of memory is inodes, quarter of memory is dentries and
> I'm 40 megs into swap. Sigh.
As requested by Linus, this patch only has the mechanism
and none of the balancing changes.
I suspect Ed Tomlinson's patch will fix this issue.
> The `working set simulator' could provide the memory hog function.
> The victim application perhaps doesn't need to be anything as
> fancy on day one. Maybe just a kernel compile or such?
Or maybe the interactive performance measurement thing by
Bob Matthews ?
http://people.redhat.com/bmatthews/irman/ (IIRC)
> I'll do the working set simulator. That'll give you guys something
> to crunch on. Is gaussian reasonable?
Sounds ok to me.
kind regards,
Rik
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-11 20:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-09 19:04 [PATCH] Optimize out pte_chain take two Dave McCracken
2002-07-10 0:21 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 14:33 ` [PATCH] Optimize out pte_chain take three Dave McCracken
2002-07-10 15:18 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-10 17:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-10 20:01 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 20:14 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-10 20:28 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 20:38 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-13 13:42 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-10 20:33 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-10 22:22 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-11 0:39 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-11 0:47 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-11 1:27 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-13 14:10 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-11 1:51 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-11 2:28 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-11 19:54 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-11 20:05 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2002-07-11 20:42 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-11 20:54 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-11 21:16 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-11 21:41 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-11 22:38 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-11 23:18 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-12 18:27 ` Paul Larson
2002-07-12 19:06 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-12 19:28 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-13 15:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-11 22:54 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-13 14:52 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-13 14:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-13 14:20 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-13 14:45 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-13 13:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-13 13:30 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-13 13:55 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-13 13:41 ` Daniel Phillips
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