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From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Kanoj Sarcar <kanojsarcar@yahoo.com>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, davem@redhat.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: smp_rmb in mm/memory.c in 2.6.10
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:36:17 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0501142217590.3109-100000@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050114213207.GK8709@dualathlon.random>

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > 
> > You could have asked even before breaking mainline ;).

Sorry (but check your mailbox for 3rd October -
I'd hoped the patch would be more provocative than a question!)

> > The rmb serializes the read of truncate_count with the read of
> > inode->i_size.

Yes, that's a clearer way of putting it, thank you.

> > The rmb is definitely required, and I would leave it an
> > atomic op to be sure gcc doesn't outsmart unmap_mapping_range_list (gcc
> > can see the internals of unmap_mapping_range_list). I mean just in case.
> > We must increase that piece of ram before we truncate the ptes and after
> > we updated the i_size.

I don't follow your argument for atomic there - "just in case"?
I still see its atomic ops as serving no point (and it was
tiresome to extend their use in the patches that followed).

> > Infact it seems to me right now that we miss a smp_wmb() right before
> > atomic_inc(&mapping->truncate_count): the spin_lock has inclusive
> > semantics on ia64, and in turn the i_size update could happen after the
> > atomic_inc without a smp_wmb().

That's interesting, and I'm glad my screwup has borne some good fruit.
And an smp_rmb() in one place makes more sense to me if there's an
smp_wmb() in the complementary place (though I've a suspicion that
"making sense to me" is not the prime consideration here ;)

> > So please backout the buggy changes and add the smp_wmb() to fix this
> > ia64 altix race.

Will do, though not today.

Hugh

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-01-14 22:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-13 20:26 Kanoj Sarcar
2005-01-13 20:39 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-13 21:02   ` Kanoj Sarcar
2005-01-13 21:06     ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-13 21:29       ` Kanoj Sarcar
2005-01-13 21:59         ` Anton Blanchard
2005-01-13 23:22           ` Kanoj Sarcar
2005-01-14 20:37             ` Hugh Dickins
2005-01-14 21:14               ` Kanoj Sarcar
2005-01-14 21:38                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-14 22:09                 ` Hugh Dickins
2005-01-14 22:34                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-14 21:25               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-14 21:32                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-14 22:22                   ` Kanoj Sarcar
2005-01-14 22:47                     ` Hugh Dickins
2005-01-14 22:51                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-14 23:14                       ` Kanoj Sarcar
2005-01-14 23:26                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-14 22:36                   ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2005-01-14 23:01                     ` Andrea Arcangeli

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