From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: John Levon <levon@movementarian.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"Martin J. Bligh" <Martin.Bligh@us.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Enhanced profiling support (was Re: vm lock contention reduction)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 10:52:36 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207081039390.2921-100000@home.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020708113928.GA80073@compsoc.man.ac.uk>
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, John Levon wrote:
>
> > I'd rather have some generic hooks (a notion of a "profile buffer" and
> > events that cause us to have to synchronize with it, like process
> > switches, mmap/munmap - oprofile wants these too), and some generic helper
> > routines for profiling (turn any eip into a "dentry + offset" pair
> > together with ways to tag specific dentries as being "worthy" of
> > profiling).
>
> How do you see such dentry names being exported to user-space for the
> profiling daemon to access ? The current oprofile scheme is, um, less
> than ideal ...
Ok, I'll outline my personal favourite interface, but I'd also better
point out that while I've thought a bit about what I'd like to have and
how it could be implemented in the kernel, I have _not_ actually tried any
of it out, much less thought about what the user level stuff really needs.
Anyway, here goes a straw-man:
- I'd associate each profiling event with a dentry/offset pair, simply
because that's the highest-level thing that the kernel knows about and
that is "static".
- I'd suggest that the profiler explicitly mark the dentries it wants
profiled, so that the kernel can throw away events that we're not
interested in. The marking function would return a cookie to user
space, and increment the dentry count (along with setting the
"profile" flag in the dentry)
- the "cookie" (which would most easily just be the kernel address of the
dentry) would be the thing that we give to user-space (along with
offset) on profile read. The user app can turn it back into a filename.
Whether it is the original "mark this file for profiling" phase that saves
away the cookie<->filename association, or whether we also have a system
call for "return the path of this cookie", I don't much care about.
Details, details.
Anyway, what would be the preferred interface from user level?
Linus
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-04 23:05 vm lock contention reduction Andrew Morton
2002-07-04 23:26 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-04 23:27 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05 1:37 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 1:49 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05 2:18 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 2:16 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05 2:53 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 3:52 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-05 4:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-05 5:38 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 5:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-05 6:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-05 6:27 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-05 6:33 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 7:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-07 2:50 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-07 3:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07 3:47 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 11:39 ` Enhanced profiling support (was Re: vm lock contention reduction) John Levon
2002-07-08 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2002-07-08 18:41 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10 2:22 ` John Levon
2002-07-10 4:16 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10 4:38 ` John Levon
2002-07-10 5:46 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10 13:10 ` bob
2002-07-07 5:16 ` vm lock contention reduction Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07 6:13 ` scalable kmap (was Re: vm lock contention reduction) Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07 6:37 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-07 7:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07 9:04 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-07 16:13 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-07 19:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-08 7:24 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 8:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-08 14:50 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-08 20:39 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 21:08 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-08 21:45 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 22:24 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-07 16:00 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-07 18:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-08 7:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-08 10:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-07-08 7:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-08 17:29 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-08 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-09 0:16 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-09 3:17 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-09 4:28 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-09 5:28 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-09 6:15 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-09 6:30 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-09 6:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-09 16:08 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-09 17:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-10 5:32 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 22:43 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-10 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-10 23:26 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-11 0:19 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-12 17:48 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-07-13 11:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-09 13:59 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-07-08 0:38 ` vm lock contention reduction William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-05 6:46 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-05 14:25 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-05 23:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-05 23:48 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-06 0:11 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-06 0:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-06 0:45 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-06 0:48 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-08 0:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-07-10 14:28 Enhanced profiling support (was Re: vm lock contention reduction) Richard J Moore
2002-07-10 20:30 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-10 21:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-11 4:47 ` Karim Yaghmour
2002-07-11 4:59 ` Karim Yaghmour
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