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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	dmccr@us.ibm.com,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>,
	mingo@redhat.co, Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	manfred@colorfullife.com, wli@holomorphy.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Page table sharing
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 18:05:18 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202181758260.24597-100000@home.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0202182252260.1930-100000@imladris.surriel.com>


On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Rik van Riel wrote:
>
> The swapout code can remove a page from the page table
> while another process is in the process of unsharing
> the page table.

Ok, I'll buy that. However, looking at that, the locking is not the real
issue at all:

When the swapper does a "ptep_get_and_clear()" on a shared pmd, it will
end up having to not just synchronize with anybody doing unsharing, it
will have to flush all the TLB's on all the mm's that might be implicated.

Which implies that the swapper needs to look up all mm's some way anyway,
so the locking gets solved that way.

(Now, that's really pushing the problem somewhere else, and that
"somewhere else" is actually a whole lot nastier than the original locking
problem ever was, so I'm not claiming this actually solves anything. I'm
just saying that the locking isn't the issue, and we actually have some
quite fundamental problems here..)

		Linus

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-19  2:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202162219230.8326-100000@home.transmeta.com>
2002-02-17 19:39 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-17 20:16   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-17 22:16   ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-18  1:35     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18  8:09       ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-18  9:41         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18 11:32           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18 19:04           ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-18 23:37             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  0:56               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  1:22                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-19  1:29                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  1:48                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  1:53                     ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-19  2:05                       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2002-02-19  2:22                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  2:35                           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  2:55                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  3:11                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  3:22                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  3:45                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 17:29                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19 18:11                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-20 14:18                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-20 15:30                                       ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-20 14:10                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-20 14:38                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-20 14:57                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 11:39                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 12:22                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-19 12:43                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 10:02                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-02-22  5:29                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-22  6:32                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-22  9:21                             ` [RFC] Page table sharing, leak gone Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  1:57                     ` [RFC] Page table sharing Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  1:23                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  1:50                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  1:53                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  2:12                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18 23:48             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18 23:59             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  0:03               ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-19  0:27                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  4:27                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-19 17:30                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19 18:18 Qing Huang

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