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From: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
To: Mike Galbraith <mikeg@wen-online.de>
Cc: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Oeser <ingo.oeser@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10
Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 03:42:18 -0300 (BRST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0105200339150.23366-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0105200509130.488-100000@mikeg.weiden.de>

On Sun, 20 May 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > On Sat, 19 May 2001, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > > On Fri, 18 May 2001, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
> > >
> > > > That's the main problem with static parameters.  The problem you are
> > > > trying to solve is fundamentally dynamic in most cases (which is also
> > > > why magic numbers tend to suck in the VM.)
> > >
> > > Magic numbers might be sucking some performance right now ;-)
> >
> > ... so you replace them with some others ... ;)
>
> I reused one of our base numbers to classify the severity of the
> situation.. not the same as inventing new ones.  (well, not quite
> the same anyway.. half did come from the south fourty;)

*nod* ;)

(not that I'm saying this is bad ... it's just that I'd
like to know why things work before looking at applying
them)

> > > (yes, the last hunk looks out of place wrt my text.
> >
> > It also looks kind of bogus and geared completely towards this
> > particular workload ;)
>
> I'm not sure why that helps.  I didn't put it in as a trick or
> anything though.  I put it in because it didn't seem like a
> good idea to ever have more cleaned pages than free pages at a
> time when we're yammering for help.. so I did that and it helped.
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Note that this is not the normal situation. Now think
about the amount of data you'd be blowing away from the
inactive_clean pages after a bit of background aging
has gone on on a lightly loaded system.  Not Good(tm)

regards,

Rik
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-20  6:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105181403280.5531-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0105181936240.583-100000@mikeg.weiden.de>
2001-05-18 18:19   ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-18 18:23     ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-18 18:58       ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-18 20:12         ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-18 20:24         ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-18 20:09       ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-18 22:44         ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-18 22:58           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-19  2:12             ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-19  2:32               ` Mike Castle
2001-05-19  6:45               ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-19  4:40             ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-19 17:13             ` [RFC][PATCH] " Mike Galbraith
2001-05-19 21:41               ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-20  3:29                 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-20  6:42                   ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2001-05-20  8:08                     ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105200546241.5531-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva>
2001-05-20  9:47                         ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]                           ` <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105200703270.5531-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva>
2001-05-21 13:36                             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-20 21:54                         ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-21 20:32                           ` David Weinehall
2001-05-23 15:34                             ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-23 17:24                               ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-25  8:39                               ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-23 17:51                             ` Scott Anderson
2001-05-25  8:10                               ` David Weinehall
2001-05-25 18:39                               ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-04 19:22                           ` RPM Installation - Compilation errors jalaja devi
2001-05-24  8:48                         ` [RFC][PATCH] Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10 Mike Galbraith
2001-05-24  9:10                           ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-24 10:32                             ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-24 11:03                               ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-24 14:23                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-20 15:32                   ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-20 17:38                     ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-20 13:44               ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-05-20 17:58                 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-20 19:32                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-20 21:03               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-21  3:54                 ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105201837240.5531-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva>
2001-05-21  3:44 ` Mike Galbraith

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