From: Mike Galbraith <mikeg@wen-online.de>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
Ingo Oeser <ingo.oeser@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 06:40:14 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0105190543190.405-100000@mikeg.weiden.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010518235852.R8080@redhat.com>
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 07:44:39PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote:
>
> > This is the core of why we cannot (IMHO) have a discussion
> > of whether a patch introducing new VM tunables can go in:
> > there is no clear overview of exactly what would need to be
> > tunable and how it would help.
>
> It's worse than that. The workload on most typical systems is not
> static. The VM *must* be able to cope with dynamic workloads. You
> might twiddle all the knobs on your system to make your database run
> faster, but end up in such a situation that the next time a mail flood
> arrives for sendmail, the whole box locks up because the VM can no
> longer adapt.
>
> That's the main problem with static parameters. The problem you are
> trying to solve is fundamentally dynamic in most cases (which is also
> why magic numbers tend to suck in the VM.)
Yup. The problems are dynamic even with my static test load.
Off the top of my head, if I could make a suggestion to the vm it
would be something like "don't let dirty pages lay idle any longer
than this" and maybe "reclaim cleaned pages older than that".
-Mike
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[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105181403280.5531-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva>
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0105181936240.583-100000@mikeg.weiden.de>
2001-05-18 18:19 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-18 18:23 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-18 18:58 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-18 20:12 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-18 20:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-18 20:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-18 22:44 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-18 22:58 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-19 2:12 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-19 2:32 ` Mike Castle
2001-05-19 6:45 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-19 4:40 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2001-05-19 17:13 ` [RFC][PATCH] " Mike Galbraith
2001-05-19 21:41 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-20 3:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-20 6:42 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-20 8:08 ` Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105200546241.5531-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva>
2001-05-20 9:47 ` Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105200703270.5531-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva>
2001-05-21 13:36 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-20 21:54 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-21 20:32 ` David Weinehall
2001-05-23 15:34 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-23 17:24 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-05-25 8:39 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-23 17:51 ` Scott Anderson
2001-05-25 8:10 ` David Weinehall
2001-05-25 18:39 ` Pavel Machek
2001-06-04 19:22 ` RPM Installation - Compilation errors jalaja devi
2001-05-24 8:48 ` [RFC][PATCH] Re: Linux 2.4.4-ac10 Mike Galbraith
2001-05-24 9:10 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-24 10:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-24 11:03 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-24 14:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-20 15:32 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-20 17:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-20 13:44 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-05-20 17:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-05-20 19:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-20 21:03 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-05-21 3:54 ` Mike Galbraith
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